Israel is defeated like the US was defeated in Afghanistan. It's not that the Taliban managed to get tanks rolling through DC, but they killed our international image and took away prescious time, money, energy, and lives. They suffered magnitudes more than us, so just like in any war, there were no winners.

We keep saying "we don't negotiate with terrorists", but I'm starting to think that we should consider negotiating with terrorists*.

'*Understanding the definition of terrorist is very subjective