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seize the means of production (slrpnk.net)

submitted 8 months ago by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We've tried that. What's prone to happen is the corporations spend money to the municipalities to deregulate. Let's stop giving them the chance. It hasn't worked. Let's instead go back to treating utilities as publically beneficial

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or they spend money to make them over regulate. Yeah. If we can't even control local politicians now, how do you propose we do close that bit of fuckery?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Continuous community organization and demonstration. Systematic election reform. Solidarity

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can we do that without any masters? Do we really have to choose one?

[–] _tezz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Man you really just can't stand the idea of doing something without giving your money to venture capitalists, can you? You really think it's better that random billionaires in Silicon Valley and Jackson Hole control your power supply?

Americans are seriously ill, and need help.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely can.

Venture capitalists shouldn't exist. Our laws shouldn't insulate people from liability.

[–] _tezz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do you suggest we run our utilities without private firms nor government firms?

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between private and government?

We want voluntary associations, yea? So we work with/in our communities. We can choose larger or smaller municipalities or companies, but we don't violate the local, voluntary bits.

[–] _tezz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

What's the difference between private and government?

Welp... In case you don't actually know, a lot....

https://www.cmich.edu/blog/all-things-higher-ed/difference-between-public-and-private-administration

We work with/in our communities.

Right. Our local governments. Government organizations.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Having no masters would be exactly the aim. Ultimate power should lay in the hands of the people and government should only exist to serve the will of said people. I don't fully know what that should look like but I can say for sure we've tested a lot of ideas that aren't that, and that we should try some new things because what were doing now isn't working.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

I don't fully know what that should look like but I can say for sure we've tested a lot of ideas that aren't that, and that we should try some new things because what were doing now isn't working.

We're on the same page.