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[-] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

I understand the link you posted and I knew you'd post it. Generally the western societies you hate is very for free speech and tolerance. The world you want is generally very against that. Socialism doesn''t have to be, but for some reason you guys want that. Which is frankly insane.

If we go by the paradox shouldn't western societies ban socialism speech?

If your opponent respects your opinion and doesn't censor you, you should do the same.

A great government shouldn't have to censor the opinions of its citizens if they are truly so great.

And no a government doesn't have to be great just because it doesn't censor, but a government can't be great if it censors.

If you disagree that's currently fine.

And westerners thinking that they got the level of censorship fundamentally right while everyone else has it wrong is just plain old chauvinism.

You want more censorship that's oppressing your opponents from expressing their opinion because you think you are objectively right and everyone else is wrong. I think it's enough to ban hate speech. There is a huge difference there.

I can't believe I'm here arguing with you guys again. It's useless because you guys are so far up your own asses that you can't hear a ship horn. I'm not against socialism per se but you certainly don't make a good case for anyone reasonable to support it.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Again, there is nothing to support the assertion that the level of speech tolerance in western societies is desirable or a net positive on society as a whole. You are a product of a particular society which plays an anchoring effect in what you consider to be the right level of free speech. This alone is not a rational basis for deciding that this is fundamentally the right amount of free speech we should strive for.

I can't believe that this such is a difficult concept for free speech zealots to wrap their head around.

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