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[-] PaX@hexbear.net 60 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Orthodox" Marxist type people lmao

I'm not really sure how people end up like this. Just terminal internet politics poisoning and never logging off? Maybe this ideology could survive real-life contact with DSA?

[-] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 3 months ago
[-] PaX@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ohhhhhhhhh okayyy, that's definitely a thing that exists outside of universities and the internet and definitely needed to be distinguished from "other", corrupted Marxisms lmao

I wanna know what their problem with Engles is though lol

[-] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"I wanna know what their problem with Engles is though lol"

Have fun

Rhetorically collapsing back on Engles “on authority”. An argument that can be reasonably boiled down to ”they’d do it to us”. Therefore any atrocities we deem necessary are justified. I cringed so hard. It gave me whiplash, swept me off my feet and body checked me through a wall.

And can be readily viewed through the lens of their use of Engles “on authority” as a crutch

Not the Engles lenin variety. But the kind Marx spoke on. The thing to remember is that the Soviet Communist party was as communist as the national socialist party of Germany was socialist. Which is to say neither of them were.

Bonus from that link:

This of course all starts with actual large scale engagement. We absolutely need to change the voting system etc as a start. For all the flaws and problems of the founding fathers, the fact that they saw us needing to largely rewrite the Constitution every few decades, let alone every few hundred years was not one of their flaws.
Then we need to uncap the House of Representatives. That’s a century overdue. Followed by abolishing the electoral college. Then reforming the house, Senate, judiciary and even the concept of the presidency. Basically take as many steps as necessary to make things as democratic/granular as possible. Dilute power.

But if you disagree please point out where in Marx’s writing the fault lies. Engles is a spiteful lunatic who’s musings and philosophy have caused untold damage to the ideology as a whole.

Essentially, it seems to boil down exactly as IMF_DOOM said.

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ohhh, that's great lol

Hehehe, @IMF_DOOM@hexbear.net called it before you even posted that

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

I get giggly whenever I see the username IMF_DOOM. It's just so good.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 3 months ago

and just remember all caps when you spell the girl name

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

IMF_DOOM fans when their favorite neocolonialist project starts with a 12-minute long sample of a cancelled cartoon that ran for three days 34 years ago: chefs-kiss

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

We need food!

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

"When our turn comes, we will make no excuses for the terror." -- Engels, I guess

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