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Have you read that I said "of course they should condemn putin ..."?
What I'm doing is not relativizing the invasion, but the opinions about it.
It's a meta level. I'm not talking about nuances of the war, but nuances of political views. The article and the discussion is on that level.
I agree with your call for clear (and plain coherent/realistic) condemnation of the war. Nevertheless this should not be confused with analyzing how many and how and why people don't see it that way.
Otherwise we give up a better understanding of what people think, which we need in order to find strategies to influence the discours on realities terms. (Reality meaning the reality of conciousness(es) about the war, not the war. That part we already agree on)
Read it back. It kinda seems like all you said was we should criticize both sides, you just listed out leaders instead and hid behind the word, nuance.
You're not really saying anything of substance. You're at risk of being so open-minded your brain's almost falling out.
Maybe, you could've just said there were very fine people on both sides
They are almost certainly a Russian troll. See their comment history.
Ok imma try to get my point across one more time: There are two different layers of reality about the war.
Both layers contain meaningful information.
A bit of info in layer 1: The war is bad.
A bit of info in layer 2: Not all people see that.
We agree on both. Now my point is: We should understand the nuances on layer 2.
Your answer is: "Layer 1 has no nuances"
The war is not the same thing as the opinions about the war.
To influence the discourse, i.e. opinions, it's better to understand the opinions specifically ("in nuances").
To close the discrapancy between misguided public opinion and actual reality, we need to understand the opinions, not confuse its object with its (ideologically structured) representation.