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Conservative Christian women in red states are rising up to defend IVF
(www.washingtonpost.com)
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How long until they realize they can’t square the circle of being pro IVF and still believe life begins and conception?
I guess being consistent was never a worry for conservatives in the first place anyway.
It doesn't seem that inconsistent to me. Natural pregnancy often ends in spontaneous abortion (usually before the woman knows that she's pregnant) but pro-life people aren't against getting pregnant. I suppose that as long as the goal is to have a child, God makes sure no souls are harmed.
There’s no getting around the fact that IVF ends with discarding some embryos.
And if you think life begins at conception, that’s murder.
Edit: Just read this in a NYT article:
That’s ironclad. You CANNOT support both IVF and believe life begins at conception.
Life begins at conception or it doesn't. There is no IVF without murder if life begins at conception.
That's just your perspective. There are plenty beleif systems allowing "souls" to check on their physical bodies but not actual reside permanently till up to 4 years old. So yea that's is your opinion of life based on your definition of life contingent to a concept of a permanent soul.
Ah ok so abortions until the child is 4 are ok? Great!
Can I get an 18?
Wait, so God can make sure no souls are harmed??? So why doesn't he just always do that regardless if it's an abortion or not? Instead he's actively picking and choosing which child's soul is harmed and which isn't?? What an abhorrent monster your God is.
Well, God has to draw the line somewhere. It would be weird if people who were going to live tragically short lives were instead born as soulless husks. The pro-life Christians defending IVF presumably think he draws the line at successful implantation.
(Also, can people not tell by my tone that I'm an atheist?)
It doesn't matter what you are. What matters is your argument / logic. And it's no bueno.
God most certainly doesn't make sure souls are not harned. Fuck that God.