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[-] Lutra@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

late to the party. Q: What is it that corporations will not tolerate about online commmunity, crowdsourced news and info?? Digg, Delicious, Slashdot, Reddit.. all eaten and changed?

Silly thoughts...

  • the life in a discussion site is the exchange of ideas/thoughts. For that to happen users need to actually listen, process, and discuss. Reddit's structure has discouraged that for years.

  • signal to noise ratio - in order for the discussion board site to be useful, there's some magic signal to noise ratio that has to be maintained. Otherwise, its some style of chaos.

  • Why I left - in a technical subreddit, someone asked a technical question 'Who still uses XYZ, and why?, I never quite understood it', I gave a short primer on how it worked, with a couple analogies. The OP replied testily ' I don't need anyone to explain to me how it works.'. And then testily to other helpful responses, and then deleted their acct.

  • The experts left most of the technical subs I am in 5-10 years ago. My guess is that discussions are mostly noise: things I could have learned if I read the instructions, or how can I do this without understanding anything about it.

  • somewhere I read that the upvote/downvote counts on the front page are made up... modified by reddit.. so that people don't know what they need to do to get to the front. By adding this, they gave themselves full editorial control of the front page. It's downhill from there.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

[Not quoting for succinctness]

Answer: corporations don't tolerate unexploited value. Online communities are rather good at gathering value, over the years, as their users add knowledge. That makes corporations grow their eyes and say "DAMN! Look at all that value that I gathered! It's time for me to reap the profits!".

  • Reddit's structure: I think so, too. And, more importantly, it's something that "the Fediverse forums" (Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin for now; SubLinks and Piefed when they join) should eventually deal with.
  • Why you left - yeah, the environment doesn't "feel" cooperative any more. Your example seems to me that the user was disingenuously (or worse, idiotically) disguising a subjective opinion (XYZ is bad) as a question; that's bread-and-butter in Reddit nowadays, sealioning there is mostly through feigned ignorance.
  • up/downvote counts - it's a bit less creepy; they add/subtract a random number to the actual score, mostly to prevent karma farming. Still opaque though, a bad thing in a collaborative environment.
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