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Enlightened Centrism
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Absolutely. But they are a problem. The KKK is not supported and exactly what I was considering an absolute. So I stand by what I said. There should be more diversity in the voting structure and not so many flashy carnival rides.
The KKK is an absolute, and you've advocated for taking the middle of the road approach for everything. Are you walking back your statement that absolutes are bad inherently, and taking the common-sense position that everything must be judged individually?
No. I'm saying that absolutes suck and they are an absolute. But you can keep trying to tell me what I am saying like I don't understand it. It didn't come from my mind or anything.
Or you are hell bent on proving an exception to centerists which is 80 percent of the country. At least it was a couple of years ago. And can't accept that all of us are in the same boat wanting more options.
It's not a strawman. The KKK is an absolutist stance, and to stand against the KKK is absolutist.
80% of America is right wing, more than that I'd say. Centrists are the Social Democrats, which rallied around Bernie.
Yes the KKK represents an absolute viewpoint. So does saying "You should never, ever support the KKK" which you claim to agree with.
Other guy is just trying to point out to you that your opening statement is logically inconsistent, since you DO support at least one absolute position. (That the KKK are unreasonable and not to be supported.)
Most likely, there are other absolute positions you also support - that one was picked because it was an easy one that for sure you would agree with. Uncovering others would take more discussion.
You also are not seeing the forrest for the trees. It's not a boolean loop. Saying an absolute is a fucking problem is a statement that is echoed by the centerists. You can diminish a point all you want. But then all we are going to discuss now nothing is nothing. There is no logic to saying that absolutes are a problem. It's a statement of fact.
Are you under the impression that I'm a centrist? Because I was under the impression you were.
Maybe I should just make this statement instead of trying to reply to this several layers deep context.
If a person says "Absolutes are a problem" but also says "except this Absolute, right here, this one is OK" - then that person doesn't actually think absolutes are a problem. That person thinks absolutes they disagree with are a problem.
Personally, I would not say absolutes are absolutely a problem. If we could agree on a few absolutes (such as "The KKK is bad" or "White supremacy should be rooted out and not tolerated" or "You can't call and threaten or beg people to take illegal action when you don't like the results of an election") I think maybe we'd have a bit more unity in the country.
At this point I guess I've lost the plot of whether I agree with you or not, but I think I don't, and my position is as outlined above. I also agree with the meme that is OP.
You are just rambling and I'm not listening.
Sorry for the off-topic reply, thought you were a different thread. But also, LOL, OK.