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[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Freedom doesn't exist without law and order. Mobs lynch wrong people as often as not. It's why the legal system should be above politics. It amazes me America has politically appointed judges. The judiciary should be separate from, and independent of, the government. If the legal system doesn't work, law and order can break down and you get anarchy.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Hey you're starting to get it!

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Then as long as we agree anarchy is bad we basically are agreeing.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Anarchy is indeed bad. Unfortunately you don't seem to grasp what anarchy is. Hint: it's not street justice.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Street "justice" is a break down of law and order. No one is accountable for the mob and is not held to any rules. How is that an outbreak of anarchy?

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You really are desperate to defend fascists, aren't you?

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Really not, screw them, but with a functioning justice system. Mob justice is no justice at all.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Your "law and order":

This Black History Month remember human trafficking was legal. Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. US Govt paying reparations to white enslavers but not to the enslaved was legal. Prison slavery still IS legal.

Do not let legality & power be a measure of morality & justice. -Qasim Rashid

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Law isn't perfect, and must constantly be challenged, but law based democracy is the best society humans have come up with. Plenty of bad law, for example, the war on drugs is stupid, like prohibition alcohol was. But mob lynching can do be part of any justice system.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You sound like a guy who'd be trying to reason with Nazi Stormtroopers as they were shoving you into the boxcar. No great injustices were ever solved through nonviolent means. None.Power does not abdicate itself because you begged for it to.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The Nazi haven't taken over law yet. In the UK at least, they are going to be losing a lot of power next election. The US is looking screwed. As always, I'm glad I don't live there.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Do you know how many times we heard that they were gonne lose the next election?...or that they couldn't possibly pass such a bill here? UK is at even greater risk from what I gather.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Even they think they are going to lose the election. They are so far behind in the polls, both opinion and by-elections, it will take quite an event to change things.

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