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submitted 8 months ago by mossy_capivara@midwest.social to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

Yes but there is more to it. Formally progressive ideas (like mixed race marriage) are no-brainers today while today's progressive ideas (like same sex marriage) were beyond the scope for the moderate left back than. So you can keep your opinions and still move to the right while the left adopts new ideas.

[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago

Formally progressive ideas (like mixed race marriage) are no-brainers today

I mean, you say that, but...

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I have seen alot but that comes as a shock to me

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

One thing I have definitely observed over the years.

It seems only the left comes up with new ideas and so, even when they don't have political power, they still move society forward.

And yes, there are backlash and temporary regressions, but overall, no free country seems to be moving towards old, conservative ideas.

For humanity, the only way seems forward. Towards the newer and better ideas.

[-] rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Countries don't always stay free, though. Look at Hong Kong, Russia and Hungary.

[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Russia wasn't free for very long.

[-] rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

But it was. Yeah, it's more likely to happen to a country that's only been more-or-less free for about 15 years, but hardly impossible in older democracies.