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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

Don't threaten me with a good time

But seriously, I think they have to because with all of their gerrymandering and election prices fuckery, they're still losing elections because of their Nasi-ism and fascist daddy issues being front and center of the party now.

They know damn well the writing is on the wall when the daddy issue boomers are dying quicker than they thought, gen-x is split, the new generation hates Nazis, and the fact that they know they can't not be Nazis without losing their base, if they don't win now and squash democracy now they're going to fade away.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

That's not a good thing. They're acting like trapped animals and telling their base this is the country's last chance at the ballot box...

Basically it's a setup for Jan 6th part 2.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Basically it’s a setup for Jan 6th part 2.

I mean, jan 6 was four years ago, any country with a decent legal system would have brought to justice those responsible already, right?

No, I must be thinking of Brazil.

[-] ggBarabajagal@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The insurrection took place on January 6, 2021, which was three years ago.

Over 700 people have plead guilty or been convicted for crimes they committed at the capitol that day. Others have not yet been apprehended or gone to trial, and some others have not been identified. https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-jan-6-criminal-cases-anniversary-bf436efe760751b1356f937e55bedaa5

Trump has also been charged for his actions three years ago, but has delayed the trial with repeated appeals all the way up to SCOTUS. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4468789-trump-special-counsel-jack-smith-supreme-court-jan-6-trial/

I don't know what Brazil has to do with January 6. In the United States -- as in many countries with "decent legal system" -- a defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Anything less than proving Trump guilty beyond a reasonable doubt will be taken as a complete victory for him, and very possibly catapult him to re-election in November.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I don’t know what Brazil has to do with January 6. In the United States

Let me help educate you, the exact same thing as 6th Jan took place in brazil as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack

They cracked down on that shit, punished about half the people in a year and what hapepend to the Brazillian Trump, Jair Bolsonaro?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro#Post-presidency_(2023%E2%80%93present)

In 30 June 2023, the Brazilian Superior Electoral Court barred Bolsonaro from running for public office until 2030 as a result of his attempts to undermine the validity of Brazil's 2022 democratic election, as well as for abuse of power with regards to using government channels to promote his campaign.[176][177] The decision applies to municipal, state and federal elections for the next eight years. He was prosecuted for several allegations of fraud in the 2022 Brazilian elections and situations linked to the January 8 attack on federal government buildings. The decision came after a 5–2 vote in favor of conviction. Following the decision, Bolsonaro stated his intentions to appeal.[177][178]

On 31 October 2023, Bolsonaro was again convicted by the Superior Electoral Court over abuse of power for using official Brazil's Independence Day ceremony to promote himself as a candidate which is banned under the Brazilian law. Former vice-president Walter Braga Netto who also attended the ceremony, and also ran for reelection in Bolsonaro's ticket, was convicted by the Court and ruled disqualified, like Bolsonaro, to run for any office for the next eight years.[179][180]

He's been stripped of power, possibility of power, had is passport confiscated and generally been neutralised by the Brazillian legal system.

It took them half a year, because, you know, They actually give a shit about democracy in Brazil. Meanwhile, trump is flying around wherever he wants despite being millons of dollars in debt, running for president again, and shilling shitty shoes.

To lighten the mood : Brazillian Q-Anon Shaman :

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I take a different perspective: this is the death rattle. They are on the way out, we just have to wait 10 years, MAX before the base is in tatters. Most of the MAGA types are Boomers.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

That's what I thought 10 years ago.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They’re acting like trapped animals

GOP has the majority of governors, state legislatures, and federal judges. Even if they get washed like in 2008 (and there's no reason to predict that kind of Dem landslide without a charismatic figure like Obama on the ballot) they aren't going anywhere.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I didn't say they were a trapped animal. I said they're acting like one. You want some nightmare fuel? Trump loses, horribly, and tanks the down ballot races because he sucked up all the campaign money for his legal bills.

Instead of accepting the Democratic trifecta, Republican Governors, legislatures, and Judges just decide Trump and all the other Republicans won and send his electors to D.C. Understandably, the deep blue cities in the Mid West and South East riot. This is used as a pretext for the Governors to suspend civil rights in those states and we're now in a stand off between Biden and the red states.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Instead of accepting the Democratic trifecta, Republican Governors, legislatures, and Judges just decide Trump and all the other Republicans won and send his electors to D.C.

That's a thing they get to do because they control all of these offices.

It isn't even as though guys like DeSantis and Abbott and Parson and Huckabee-Sanders aren't wallowing in their own criminal cesspool either.

But Dems are so fixated on Trump as a unique villain that they've let this clown car of fascism do donuts across the southwest unimpeded.

Trump could drop dead tomorrow, get replaced by Vivek Ramaswamy, and they could still do this.

Thanks to a new wave of gerrymandering, vote caging, and legislative strong arming, they effectively already are hijacking state and municipal government offices from elected Democrats.

Just look at Abbot's takeover of the Houston Independent School District. Or Mississippi State legislatures seizing Jackson's elected judiciary with House Bill 1020. Or the Pennsylvania House impeachment of Philly DA Larry Krassner.

Understandably, the deep blue cities in the Mid West and South East riot. This is used as a pretext for the Governors to suspend civil rights in those states and we’re now in a stand off between Biden and the red states.

I'm old enough to remember blue cities erupting into riot over police treatment of black residents in 2014. Do you remember what Obama did next? Do you remember what Democrats campaigned on in 2016 and then again and again in subsequent election years?

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Ironically that's the same exact thing Dems are saying.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah. But the Democrats aren't actively planning to end democracy

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