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He also said that the danger posed by another Trump term doesn’t excuse Biden from scrutiny but “actually makes him more subject to scrutiny.”

To leftists and progressives fed up with Biden, particularly his commitment to Israel as it continues to bomb civilians in Gaza, the assessment was not just fair — it was obvious. But more centrist Democrats, including those most likely to have appended “Blue Wave” and “Resistance” labels to their social media accounts in the Trump years, were appalled at what they saw as a betrayal by one of their own.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 202 points 10 months ago

Which "liberals?" I thought it was funny. I guess I'm not "liberal" enough? I'm voting for Biden because I'll do anything to stop Trump, but I'm not going to pretend he shouldn't be mocked.

[-] OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

yeah I enjoyed it too, a couple of different friends mentioned it being funny I don't know anyone that was upset about it.

probably just another article about some random vocal minority complaining

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

I thought it was funny too, but man is it uncomfortable knowing that it could sway people away from voting for Biden and swing the scales in favor of Trump.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

He was just as hard if not harder on Trump in the same segment, so I don't think it would.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

The problem is of the people that watch him. The majority of them would never vote for Trump in the first place. Most of them would probably vote Biden. So being hard on Trump he's simply preaching to the choir. Being hard on Biden. He might demoralize a few from participating. It doesn't mean he was wrong or wrong to do it. But it is a possible concern. Though the only group to actually blame for that is the Democrats.

I mean I'm still going to vote for them. Because I like the idea of still having elections even if they are highly flawed. You don't get that sort of thing under full blown fascism.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago

It won't, it was honest and painted Trump in a worse (and deservedly awful) light. The apologists that call the sky yellow when you can see it's fucking blue cause much more damage by eroding public trust in the democrats.

I prefer flawed candidates that overcome their flaws so that, hopefully, we can find a less flawed candidate next time.

[-] Eggyhead@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

If Jon’s audience somehow got swayed into voting FOR Trump over some criticisms on Biden, they were never listening in the first place.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That's a fair and comforting point. I thought Stewart was a bit heavy on criticism, but it's not so much that I dislike the criticism, but that I'm wary it'll lead to apathy and people not voting.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Doesn't really matter does it? A vote is a vote.

[-] Eggyhead@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Wish the DNC had told themselves the same before insisting which bed we lay in for another four years.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Denial and scolding/belittling/abusing people for having legitimate concerns will lose a lot more people than being honest and having a sense of humor.

[-] fapforce5@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's an interesting point. Jon Stewart's job isn't to get Biden elected. Just like Fox and MSNBC shouldn't be their job to get their respective candidates elected. He should present things as he sees it and the people should inform themselves to select the best candidate

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That's fine, and I can respect that, but damn am I scared of another Trump administration.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah that's my only concern really. I don't want people to become apathetic and not vote. I think Stewart's message though is probably the fairest way to prevent that though. Acknowledge that yeah, Biden is old, and he's not as sharp as he used to be. He is by no means the ideal nor dream candidate. People are right to feel iffy about him.

But Trump means there's really no question of who to vote for and who you should vote for. We can be honest and affirm worries about Biden while still encouraging votes for him.

[-] joekar1990@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Probably saw 2 people on twitter and then they just expanded and said all liberals?

[-] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

So they saw both of the remaining Twitter users, makes sense

[-] sik0fewl@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

The ones on Twitter that are sourced in the article. This is a non story.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

People complaining on Twitter, say it ain’t so.

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

My guess is bot farms mostly. Russia, the DNC, the RNC, et al benefit in their own ways from posting their reactions all over social media. Sure some on the far left probably didn't make it past the first commercial break, but with an election, everyone is coming out to play

Regardless, they are both way too old to be running again. I find it hard to believe these guys with one foot in the grave and an inability to speak coherently are our best bet.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Well said and agreed 100%.

[-] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

It's not hard to grasp really is it.

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