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[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 80 points 9 months ago

Yep. The problem is that 90% of offsets are fraudulent. So just buying more doesn't help

[-] Beefytootz@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

I feel like we need a Martin Luther for climate issues. You can't buy your way into heaven and you can't buy imaginary climate credits. Plant a fucking tree or fly commercial.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago
[-] Tautvydaxx@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago
[-] guillem@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago
[-] Tautvydaxx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Dr. Martin Luther King? Or Martin Luther the priest?

[-] guillem@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Beefytootz is making a reference to papal bulls, I don't think the Dr. ever addressed them.

[-] Tautvydaxx@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Duck me Iam stupid, some how It didnt register to me.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 29 points 9 months ago

I hate how carbon credits are a thing. It's just throwing money at a problem so people turn a blind eye to what you're doing and not actually helping solve the problem.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bullshit. Offsets are a serious market solution to climate change.

I'm actually starting a retail business for them. You can use Venmo, or Cash App, to purchase offsets for your day to day climate killing activities.

I'm even running a special. Normally it's $1 per mile driven, but today it's only $0.85/mile AND I'll throw in an offset for 5 pieces of petroleum based articles of clothing.

Once I've received payment, I'll send you a photo of the trees you just saved.

See? Totally legit. You don't have to thank me, just send me money. I'm happy to be doing my part!

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago

If only 10% are real, then you just need to buy 1000% offsets!

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 9 months ago

Problem is that the more fraudulent offsets you buy, the more that get created to fill the demand for them. You can't buy your way out of this problem.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

With enough money and oversight, you could probably could just make your own carbon offset program. How to do the accounting is inherently tricky though. If you bought up a bunch of land and planted trees there where there is none, but it was land that was going to be used for that same purpose or for a solar farm or wind turbines anyways, you didn't really do anything except maybe start a month earlier.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

Yes proving additionality is hard.

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