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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The GOP made the same bargain the Prussian generals made in 1933 — and the consequence is their total destruction

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[-] reverendz@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

It’s the natural evolution of capitalism to descend into imperialism and fascism. The republicans, or ‘classical liberals’ are just the vanguard, while the dems, or ‘neoliberals’ are the brake.

At best the dems are just slowing the speed of the descent. But without a systemic change, it’s inevitable.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

The republicans, or ‘classical liberals’ are just the vanguard, while the dems, or ‘neoliberals’ are the brake.

Neoliberals aren't the brake; they're the pawl to the fascists' ratchet. Their function isn't to slow it down, but rather to stop the left from pulling it back.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fascism doesn't have a "revolutionary vanguard" to usher in its final form like communist theory. Read "Ur-Fascism" by Umberto Eco for a good rundown of how fascism takes hold.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Many fascist movements fade away with time. We tend to only focus on the ones that got power, because that's when things go to shit. The ones that just fade away are boring and don't get talked about much. Selection bias applied to history leads people to believe that there's inevitability to things when there really isn't.

Odds are Biden will win the election, Trump ends up in a prison cell, there's some violence by some of the MAGAs but it's easily put down, support for MAGA dies off. Of course this isn't inevitable either, even a low probability of Trump becoming President again is scary and people should make an effort to prevent that from happening.

Saying that Trump winning is inevitable is simply not true, and only serves to demotivate people that might otherwise make an effort to prevent that outcome.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Natural evolution? What? When has late stage capitalism happened before now? And the analogy doesn't even hold up. Whack comment.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The analogy might be questionable, but the logical and inevitable conclusion of capitalism (markets and the profit motive) is the continued accumulation of power/wealth by those who own the means of production.

Barring very strong regulation that somehow manages to avoid capture or a perpetually benevolent ruling class it becomes defacto fascism.

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