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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Stop at socialism. You never go full daddy-state.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Tell me you know knowing about socialism or communism without telling me you’ve never opened a book

[-] Schooner@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Socialism is actually full daddy-state.

Communism would be a stateless existence.

[-] foo@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago

Corporatism is basically the same thing except we let private organisations who's only interest in profit be "daddy"

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Corporatism is capitalism. A free market will always consolidate, monopolize, and expand its power. It’s not going to let some government get in its way. That’s why they become the government like in the US today.

[-] foo@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Corporatism, at least in this current style is more than capitalism. In capitalism we let failed companies fail, in corporatism they are too big to fail so their failure is socialized and they are encouraged to suckle at the teat if the public purse.

Governments could take back control but they are run by weak people who are easily bought for pennies.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Everything you described is just capitalism.

Governments have never “just let business fail” because under capitalism and its drive to consolidate and monopolize, the government will become an arm of corporate power. The weak and corrupt politicians are by design. The corporate welfare is by design.

This has been been seen throughout the history of capitalism and is the logical conclusion to its processes and theories. If you have a system based on infinite growth and profit seeking, the system will always devolve to exploitation, monopoly, and government control. Why? Because it’s profitable.

The very foundation that corporations working in their self interest will be a benefit to society is rotten, and has been shown to never work time and time again.

The only progress we have seen has come from public endeavors, independent actors, and the people. Never corporations. Only thing we get from corporations is 35 different types of Oreos and 20 different types of toothpaste all owned by the same company.

this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
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