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Imagine living in a place where owning a gun isn't the real controversy, and this isn't already a law...
Literally the only gun I want right now is in the VR game pistol whip. It also get me exercising.
wait until you discover things like bears, or mountain lions.
I've seen Disney cartoons. Animals are cute, cuddly, and help you get dressed
you make a good point.
Haha those we actually have. As long as people have been following the rules and not feeding them and locking up their garbage, they don't really like to go near humans. That said there have been problems of people trying to pet the big cats.
yeah, idk about you, but if the potential for a wild animal attack of some variety were to happen. I think i would be more inclined to have a weapon of some kind on me, then not, especially if i were rural.
These people discredit you because they refuse to understand the practical use of firearms, and focus on the unlawful use.
If I go campaign to ban all makers and spray paint to curb graffiti. I'd be ridiculed.
And rightly so
Ah yes, that's why a guy living in the middle of Dallas needs an AR-15. Defense against bears and mountain lions.
didnt realize people only lived in dallas, that's crazy.
AR-15s are legal in Dallas despite the lack of bears and mountain lions. Which was your reasoning for legal guns.
yeah, the original comment was pretty vague though. I provided a reason why people, particularly those that live farther out of the city might want a gun.
I suppose the dallas argument is true? There are other reasons to own guns though.
I don't think the Dallas argument is true. Firstly because you're really unlikely to be bitten by a rattlesnake in an urban area, secondly because they sneak attack and so you would be unlikely to shoot one before it bites you anyway and thirdly, they have hospitals in Dallas that can administer antivenin and you don't have to waste a bunch of bullets in a futile effort to shoot a snake that's already bitten you.
hate to break it to you. There are more reasons to own guns than "snakes"
you ever wonder why people like motorcyles, off-roading, racing, etc... Same idea.
Yes, I realize that. The person I was talking about thinks snakes, bears and mountain lions are why guns should be legal.
this article is about a law in maryland
Ah yes, Baltimore is famous for bears and mountain lions. We definitely need guns there.
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/theres-a-bear-in-the-neighborhood-bear-sightings-on-the-rise-in-maryland
Okay, since you're sharing links, how about sharing a link with me about how many people in Maryland have been attacked by a bear or a mountain lion in the last 10 years.
Actually, I'll make it even easier for you- how many people in the United States have been attacked by a bear or a mountain lion in the last 10 years?
You know, since bears wandering around neighborhoods that aren't in Baltimore (Howard county is next to Baltimore and a lot of it is rural- did you even know that?) are such a major threat that we need people to have AR-15s in downtown Baltimore.
im not making a case that bears are the onay reason to own a gun. i'm saying there are bears in maryland, and thats enough reason to own a gun there.
dallas has rattle snakes.
If bears are enough of a reason to own a gun in downtown Baltimore, you can tell me exactly how many bear attacks there have been in the U.S. in the last 10 years.
Then tell me how many people in Dallas have been killed by rattlesnakes (which sneak attack).
the fact they live within a few miles is all the reason i need.
See, the funny thing is that I know that there have been a grand total of two bear attacks in Maryland's entire history, both non-fatal, 46 fatal bear attacks total in the U.S. in the last 10 years. I also know that no one in Dallas has been killed by a rattlesnake.
Reasoning that guns need to be legal in Baltimore because of two non-fatal bear attacks in the state's entire history is ludicrous reasoning.
If you think that guns should be legal, come up with a better argument than 'defense from something that almost never happens.'
I mean how about defense from people? Why did you have to go with something ludicrous like mountain lions? You really can't come up with a non-ridiculous scenario where a gun might be needed in a city?
It's not up to you to determine how much danger do I need to be in before I'm allowed to prepare for that danger.
It's up to me to determine that your reasoning for legal guns is silly and cowardly and there are dozens and dozens of better reasons for legal guns which are neither silly nor cowardly.
Why you literally didn't go with 'home self-defense from intruders' when that actually happens to people I don't know. Instead you go with 'I need an AR to protect myself from rattlesnakes' which, granted, has given me a good laugh this morning, but it's the worst reason I have ever heard anyone make for legal guns.
Honestly, I'm starting to think you're some sort of troll account for someone who is actually against legal guns.
An AR would be a TERRIBLE choice for a rattlesnake.
That's why they make these: :)
https://www.bondarms.com/bond-arms-handguns/snake-slayer/
>I need an AR to protect myself from rattlesnakes’ which, granted, has given me a good laugh this morning, but it’s the worst reason I have ever heard anyone make for legal guns.
this is an appeal to ridicule. it is not a rebuttal.
Trying to do the 'this is not a logical argument' thing when you just lied about what I said in another thread is not going to work very well.
Especially when you are trying to go with 'protection from mountain lions' over 'protection from home invaders' as a reason to have guns legal.
this is just poisoning the well.
I know you think you know terms from a college formal logic class you probably never took, but you have still lied about me twice now in another thread and you still have made the worst argument for legal guns I have ever heard.
this is more poisoning the well. poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem, and personal attacks are expressly prohibited on lemmy.world and this community.
That is neither ad hominem nor a personal attack. You did lie about me twice. Right here: https://kolektiva.social/users/bigMouthCommie/statuses/111867533172612302
Are you going to deny it now? Will this be lie number three?
You did. I linked to it. First you said I was saying someone shouldn't own a gun, which I did not, then you said I was arguing with them, which I was not. Both were lies. So that is lie number three.
And this is lie number four. I never suggested anyone shouldn't listen to you.
> never suggested anyone shouldn’t listen to you.
this is actually implied by your other statements and gives the lie that you are operating in good faith. I will be reporting most of this conversation. feel free to do the same.
I implied no such thing. I cannot stop anyone from listening to you and everyone is free to listen to you.
Doing the "I'm not a liar, you are" thing after I pointed out every single lie you told is a bit silly, don't you think?
Even if I did lie about you which I didn't that doesn't change whether what I'm writing in this thread is true. You're attacking the person here by saying "this person did a thing therefore you shouldn't listen to them." it's textbook poisoning the well. it's an ad hominem. it's a personal attack.
qed
You did. I linked to it. First you said I was saying someone shouldn’t own a gun, which I did not, then you said I was arguing with them, which I was not. Both were lies. So that is lie number three.
And this is lie number four. I never suggested anyone shouldn’t listen to you.
I have never once attacked you personally. That is lie number five.
You have demonstrated nothing, but I will not call that a lie, I will chalk that up to you likely not knowing what "quod erat demonstrandum" means.
Also, did you delete this post once just so you could add 'qed' to the end? It's "Q.E.D.," incidentally.
The easiest way to deal with a bear in downtown Baltimore is to tell them you aren't into large, hairy dudes.