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[–] tymon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (67 children)

the whole de-federating thing is seriously turning me off to the whole concept of lemmy, it's like little dictators with their sceptres cutting off entire communities from each other. it's a major flaw and I hope it gets addressed as lemmy/fediverse evolves, or else it's not going to work

[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (39 children)

it’s a major flaw and I hope it gets addressed as lemmy/fediverse evolves, or else it’s not going to work

Defederation is an important tool for admins (e.g. if a server full of nazis appears, we want it to be defederated immediately).

Hopefully admins realise over time it's stupid to defederate over trivial stuff, and it causes users to revolt and possibly a decline in your server's activity.

Also, make sure you complain to your admin if they do this, or just leave and go to a new server.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (38 children)

(e.g. if a server full of nazis appears, we want it to be defederated immediately).

This seems obvious to everyone else, but not to me. Why would we want to do that instead of just dealing with them one by one when needed or just individually blocking communities/users?

I'm extremely uncomfortable with an authority deciding for me what I may see in my feed and what not.

[–] JadedIdealist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No one is stopping you from joining a server full of Nazis.
Those openly avocating violence and cruelty towards others who are being neither violent or cruel aren't "just another reasonable point of view that deserves to be heard"

[–] Arcaneslime@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not contributing to the debate necessarily, I'd just like to take a moment to say:

Tbf, if you don't like "Those openly avocating violence and cruelty towards others who are being neither violent or cruel," then you'll want to be on an instance that defederates lemmygrad and lemmy.ml. Before the reddit exodus this place was almost entirely genocide denialiasts who support Cuba, China, Russia (incl. the current invasion and simping for the USSR), and who want to literally murder all small business owners and landlords even if they only rent out their spare room or an old townhouse from before they got married for some extra income to help pay for meds in retirement, but no matter, "bourgeoisie."

The only reason they aren't so prominent today is the flood drowned them out a bit, they're still very much here, and they're no better than the Nazis, and the kicker is they both think they're the good guys lol.

Edit: Hehe downvotes mean nothing here, but I can see I upset a few of those genocide denialists and that makes me happy.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Nice to meet another vegan in the wild.

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