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Just start the civil war already, jeeze.
OR Texas can pull it's head out of its own asshole.
It's a long shot, I know.
I won't hold my breath lol.
Texas sure is lol
They’ve had their heads up their ass for so long that they think their farts are a lovely breeze of fresh air. Now they're permanently grown into that position; like how your mom said if you tug at your face it’ll stay that way…
Nah, that’s not how we do things in a civilized society.
Right, we just wait until they invite a civil war, lose, and kill themselves when they realize they can’t win, meanwhile countless others suffer during the whole thing. Sounds great.
Jesus Christ thank you. Some of the suggestions here are terrifying.
People who say violence is never the answer are literally the first people to be executed when violence comes to town.
How did we solve world war 2? A monopoly on violence.
Let the Russians deal with it?
It is difficult to imagine how enforcing constitutionally-enshrined federal law will spark a civil war.
Unless you mean these assholes are traitors. At which point it becomes even more important to enforce the rule of law and yeet them out of government.
You really don't want that. You might not realise it now, but even if we win, those of us left will gaze at the ashes under which we buried our friends and family, and wish it hadn't happened.
Fuck it, Texas deserves to be ash then.
Rip the bandage off and get to recovery and repair faster. We’re just slowly decaying and collapsing into fascism right now.
That's the thing about war: it's not easy to contain it or direct it once it's gotten going. It's messy. It will kill people you care about. It will probably kill you. Downvote away, but war is hell and by the time you all realise I'm right about that it'll be way too fucking late.
Who says it should be contained? I simply said “Texas deserves to be ash then” - the fallout is acceptable.
We all have to die of something. The fear of death from the left is keeping us from confronting the right wing as needed - they don’t fear death because they have a Heaven or Rapture to save them. Stop worrying about death and face the fascists on their level, or they will dominate by dictating the tempo of action.
Trump is proving that much right now. He has a stronger support base than ever before - because he espouses violent and aggressive rhetoric. Just lean into it and let the cards (or bodies) fall where they may. America likes it that way, it seems.
Well, you said Texas can be ash, as though it would just affect Texas.
And stop straw manning my point. I'm not talking about fear of death. My point is that war is fucking awful. There is NOTHING about it to look forward to, or cheer for, or admire, and there is NO REASON to want it to happen.
You think Palestinians or Israelis are reveling in the glory of war right now? Ukrainians, or Russians who've lost loved ones on the front? Idiocy. Nobody should want that shit. Be furious with the fuckheads who are going to force us into it. Don't argue to me that the suffering it will cause is in any way acceptable. It isn't.
According to pew research , 40% of Texas is democrat or leans democrat, most can't leave. 20% aren't sure. Only 40% or so is hard repub or leans that way.
Nah. Humans have driven 70% of all species to extinction. There's no species worth saving with that kind of track record. Hopefully earth will find harmony thousands or millions of years after we're gone!
If that's your take, then consider that you're talking about a civil war and it won't destroy our species, maybe not even our country, but it'll damage the planet a lot more than we already have.
War isn't good for anyone. Not us, not other animals, not the planet. Not now, not in the long-term. You only wish for it because you haven't seen it, or the aftermath, and don't know what it's like.
It's just another piece of the polycrisis we're heading towards, with the main force of instability being the climate tipping points we've started and continue to trigger.
Check out the limits to growth if you're interested.
Man, you're all over the map. First it's civil war, now you want to talk about the climate. Finish the topic in front of you, I'm just responding to what you're saying.
We are heading towards a polycrisis. Many crises simultaneously resulting in, hopefully, the downfall of human beings. America is a bullshit country that will probably have a civil war soon, adding to the polycrisis.
The limits to growth is an analysis of economic and societal trends, that predicted we're bound for catastrophe around the 2030s, and when it was revisited with updated data, found that we were not only on track for collapse, we were early on certain aspects, not even taking into consideration the climate.
Check it out it's an interesting read.
I'm not disagreeing that this is happening. You are off topic. You wished for war, war is horror, it will bring untold suffering and it will be awful. That's it, that's the whole point.
Everything else will be at least as bad because it's even more suffering, yes. Stop wishing for the acceleration of any part of this.
Yeah war sucks. Guess what else sucks? America lol. You haven't figured it out peacefully, so you're going to have a civil war again. I'm not wishing anything, I'm stating a fact.