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These people are out of their fucking minds. Nothing’s ever enough.
Imagine waking up and the axis of your whole identity is guns. You don't feel comfortable unless you can have a gun with you everywhere. You worry constantly about your guns getting taken away.
What a miserable life.
This whole Bruen standard is revisionist history at it's worst too. For example states were straight up banning conceal carry in the decades after the Constitution was written and ratified.
If we did that now they'd come up with some bullshit story about Paul Revere or something.
Also their logic for everything doesn't scale. They'll say, "sure! post offices are a-ok!" but then be like "well obviously you shouldn't be able to bring a loaded handgun into the cabin of a commercial flight, or attend a presidential speech with a sniper rifle." And their gun friendly politicians definitely ban guns at their rallies and conventions.
And everybody loves being an originalist on the issue until you start talking about the whole "well regulated militia" component of the amendment.
I live in the EU now and sure we have illegal guns in this country, but the fact is that the firearm homicide rate per capita is 27 times higher in the US than it is here. And gun suicides rates are over 30 times higher per capita in the US. When someone gets shot here it's big fucking news. You don't have to worry about some kind of drunken social transgression erupting into gunfire.
The US is fucking ridiculous on this topic.
It's easy to understand the US if you look at politicians like race drivers... With sponsor patches on their suits.
OK, let's roll it back.
Now I can't carry in a Post Office. Sound good?
Now how do you propose to enforce that law? Perhaps a sign on the door saying, "No bad guys allowed."
So weird seeing comments like yours. Let me quote Sir Terry Pratchett, wild conservative (LMAO having wrote that...)
And from another great book of his:
For those unfamiliar, Pratchett was so liberal, he was writing about trans rights before you kids ever heard those words put together.
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668
Uhhhhhh, who put a bug up your bonnet?
Just another person confused about the difference between seeing "how things are" and rationalizing it as "how things have to be." Nevermind a simple look at the mass shootings by country correlate very well with reasonable gun control laws.
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation (see comparison)
No need to bring Sir Terry Pratchett into this.
So.... your source to back up your point is an excerpt from a fictional book written by someone who's expertise is in writing fiction?
Personally, I try not to take the word of someone who is not an expert, or at least versed in that particular area. Just because Pratchett was very a progressive writer doesn't mean his opinions on gun control should be taken for anything more than his own personal position.
And if we're just going to cite his fiction as his opinion, we have to assume he was also pro-police violence. I don't know how much Discworld you've red, but even as Vimes progressed as a character and got better in a lot of ways, he always ended up resolving the issue by skirting the actual law and bending the rules to fit his purpose. Often he would espouse how much easier his job and the city would be if he wasn't restricted by the law. Not everyone else, they still need to follow the law, but Sam Vimes knows better. There were even times when Pratchett would start to push back on that idea like he was going to have Vimes actually understand that police aren't special and should be as answerable to the law as anyone... then the conflict would always be resolved by Vimes going outside the law and taking it into his own hands. He never learned that lesson. Quite the opposite actually.
So for those unfamiliar, Pratchett was so conservative, he was writing about rogue cops taking the law into their own hands before you kids ever heard those words put together.