744
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2024
744 points (98.3% liked)
News
23369 readers
3329 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
This article seems to imply that stopping heavy marijuana use can lead to withdrawal symptoms.
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that.
There's definitely symptoms. Irritability being the main one.
Trouble sleeping is another one. It's not a heroin withdrawal, but it's there.
Inability to sleep and lack of appetite are also pretty common.
Goku goes SSII when he’s resting on his T break weekends
People can get that from not watching TV or listening to music.
Should we also ban those?
Irritability, sleep problems, night sweats, appetite issues, etc. These are 100% withdrawl effects for some heavy or frequent cannabis users who stop cold turkey.
Is it cocaine or heroin withdrawl? Absolutely not. But we don't do anyone any favours pretending that people don't experience these symptoms when stopping (though, on the other hand, not everyone does. Depends how heavy/long you've been imbibing and individual differences in body chemistry).
Crazy vivid dreams after stopping long term use as well.
Not necessarily a negative withdrawal effect, although the sudden vivid dreams can be extra scary if the dreams aren't happy dreams
Tbf, these are also some of the issues that starting weed helped me fix probably because ADHD.
Thing is, I 100% believe you. Cannabis can help with these kind of problems too, depending on the person.
My only gripe is when people say "Lol, no one gets withdrawl symptoms when they stop smoking weed". It's true that not everyone experiences it, but a) when I have stopped cold turkey for anything more than a few days, I personally have these problems, with a fairly predictable timeframe/duration, and b) I don't seem to be the only one who does*
Want to make it clear that I really like cannabis, and it can legitimately be a game changer for some people's conditions. But it's important to balance out the actual good and the actual bad when talking about it - cannabis is neither 100% perfect for everyone every time, nor is it the Devil's Lettuce that will lead to doing bumps of heroin on a pile of dead babies and an unhealthy love of freeform jazz. The truth's in the middle - it has benefits as well as downsides, and different people experience both to different degrees.
*There is, of course, an argument to be made that people who get 'hit hard' with withdrawl effects do so because they were self-medicating for some unrecognized condition. I don't necessarily buy that for all cases, but it's worth thinking about.
The body is going to react to anything that it stops getting after it has been getting it consistently. Caffeine is perfectly legal and I get bad migraines from quitting it.
Very vivid dreams for a week count?
That's about it. I am getting a good amount of pushback from people who very much like the idea that being able to dream again and not being high are withdrawl.
And sure, they're all technically correct in the most pedantic way.
When I smoke more regularly everyday and stop suddenly I can feel horribly depressed, have trouble eating and sleeping, there are pretty widely recognized withdrawal symptoms though they aren't as bad for everyone. Ask a therapist who works with substance abuse if weed has any withdrawal symptoms, plenty of people have trouble taking breaks or stopping because it can be hard for some to tolerate the symptoms. Obviously it's not the same as something like heroin or benzos but it's more than just more dreams.
It's not even the same as caffeine, my dude.
True, I feel much worse physically when lacking caffeine lol.
longtime user here, i tuck in with a bowl every night, and every morning i wake up with a dream still dancing in my head. when i go on a break i don't "start dreaming again", I have extremely vivid and bizarre dreams for like a week and then it settles back to normal. Drugs have more effect on dreaming than just "stop" and "go". I suspect the issue is less others being pedantic and more you being unwilling to challenge a deeply oversimplified take.
Wow, you remember vivid dreams. That's clearly withdrawl.
....In the most technical sense, only. You're technically correct, the best form of correct. Which is pretty much the definition of pedantry.
You're just straight up provoking me now without even the pretense of trying to make any kind of point, so I'm going to just hit that block button and be done with this exchange.