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[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 105 points 5 months ago

To become an American police officer.

Other countries have somewhat higher requirements

  • Norway - 4500 hours

  • Finland - 4500 hours

  • India - 4000 hours

  • Germany - 4000 hours

  • Australia - 3500 hours

  • Spain - 2880 hours

  • United Kingdom - 2250 hours (plus if they want to carry a gun significant additional hours)

  • Canada - 2080 hours

  • New Zealand - 1924 hours

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Australian here. Our police are still shit after 3500hrs just FYI.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Have they shot anyone randomly lately?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

No, they dont seem to even show up to crimes that are actively being committed.

[-] i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

Have you tried being filthy rich?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

I have tried very hard it did not work.

[-] Diusor@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Being filthy rich or having the police show up?

[-] GreenAppleTree@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

One of them has been taking shots at becoming PM a couple times, and couldn't even get that done. He's now resorted to starting (culture) wars instead.

[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

thank you i was looking for this.

the many hours of training do make a difference in quality of work. i feel like german and american policeforce are barely compareable

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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