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Christopher Gibbons and Tyrone Patten-Walsh espoused racist, antisemitic, Islamophobic, homophobic and misogynistic views and encouraged listeners of their “Lone Wolf Radio” podcast to commit violent acts against ethnic minorities, authorities said.

Using aliases on their show, the pair said “the white race was likely to be ‘genocided’ unless steps were taken to fight back.” They approved of a day when so-called race traitors would be hanged, particularly those in interracial relationships. Prince Harry’s wife, Meghan, is biracial.

On one episode, Gibbons said the Duke of Sussex should be “prosecuted and judicially killed for treason” and called Harry’s son, Archie, who is now 4, a “creature” that “should be put down.”

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's the UK.

They're definitelly not a society were everybody is seen as equally important or deserving, and it gets reflected in such interesting details as the Upper Classes having their own language accent, which is not regional and distinct from the other accents, or how those same Upper Classes found National Socialism (i.e. Nazi) thinking very appealing until Hitler invaded Poland (there's even a picture of the old Queen as a child being taught by her uncle, then King, to do a Nazi salute) mainly because of the whole part that some people are inherently superior.

In fact there are various laws granting certain rights specifically for members of the Royal Family, and then there is of course the vast informal liking-of-royal-arse going on such as the extra expedience and harsher sentencing we see here.

Mind you, not defending these guys, just wish everybody over there getting death threats from people like these saw an equally expedient and strong application of the Law as members of the Upper Classes (not just Royals, though those are primo inter pares in this) do.

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

interesting take on the accents - never thought of it that way but it's similar in other European countries. if you go to college here, you're mostly confronted with "high german", and are looked down upon if you talk in your regional accent, which is considered courtesy of the poor and working class. i'm somewhat well educated but i refuse to belong to the self-proclaimed "elite", nothing wrong with being smart AND being yourself...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The whole regional accent sounds like something else, which I've seen in pretty much all countries I lived in.

In the UK I would say that's the RP (i.e. Received Pronounciation) English accent, is what one would think of as an "educated" accent, or in other words the "TV accent" - the non-regional accents of most TV anchors - though nowadays regional accents on TV are much more common, in the UK and elsewhere.

What I'm talking about is often called "Posh English" and it very much signals high-class rather than merelly high-education, and it's common amonsgt those who as teenagers frequented certain private very expensive boarding schools (curiously called "public schools" in the UK, not because they're state schools but because theoretically anybody who can afford them can send their children there, though the reality isn't quite like that).

RP would be a middle class accent, whilst a Posh accent signals being upper class (typically old wealth).

I've lived in a couple of countries and Britain is the only one where I've noticed that an exclusive upper class accent is part of how the upper classes signal their social status.

PS: By the way, I absolutelly agree with your point about being yourself and not trying to immitate some self-proclaimed elite and their manners, and follow the same myself. In my case, living abroad for over 2 decades has really given me an outside perspective on just how tiny and silly such local differences really are and how profoundly ignorant it is to feel "elite" based on such social theatre which is totally irrelevant in measuring the true qualities of a person.

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