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[-] JustZ@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think you're making this more complicated than it is. You're trying to view America's position as a domestic issue when it's an international one, and it's the international nature of the issue that explains America's position.

Although there is growing pressure and agreement that is real has gone too far, there is no appetite for suspending support for Israel.

The facts are:

  • There is no region of the world more essential to global security for the next 100 years than the Middle East;

  • Israel, though classified as a "flawed democracy" same as the US, is the only democracy in the region;

  • Hamas and Iran have a shared intention and goal to destroy Israel;

  • Israel is nuclear armed and will obviously not surrender to Tehran;

  • US support, specifically air and missile defense, is the thing that prevents Iran from invading Israel;

  • Open war between Iran and Israel will kill millions more people than there are in all of Palestine;

  • There is no appetite in Washington for another failed state in the middle east.

That's my two cents. The enemy here as usual is nationalism. Nationalists pervert everything, including democracy. Whether it's the nationalists in charge of Israel or the ones in charge of Iran.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Not a single thing you wrote takes away from the fact that this has very real political implications for Biden at the end of the year. Are you suggesting that Biden isn't considering how this will play in November? Because that would just be silly.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

No. I'm suggesting that nobody in Washington really has any intention of doing anything differently with regard to Israel.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not suggesting that they'd be weighing whether or not to do anything fundamentally different with respect to our relationship with Israel. I'm suggesting that they'd be weighing whether or not to come out with a more forceful messaging strategy for encouraging them to throttle back a bit and stop with the whole war crimes thing. There's a very real difference between dropping all support for Israel as a state and conveying a stronger sense of urgency for the innocent civilians that are being indiscriminately bombed. As it stands, voters are watching us not only do absolutely nothing to reduce bloodshed, but also actively send money and resources to the ones producing it.

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