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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 136 points 5 months ago

This is exactly what I am thinking as well. Russia is clearly threatening the stability of the EU right now. If the EU wants to send a strong signal against aggression and meddling, it needs support Ukraine in a way that makes it clear to any would-be-adversary, that the EU is willing and capable to defend itself and its allies.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Not to mention, it makes them less reliant on the US -- which as an American, means we can reduce our defense spending. Which means we can finally have really good welfare programs.

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

This has been disproven so many times. You don't lack social programs because of defense spending. Defense spending is only 3.5% of GDP. Your wildly inefficient private health care system, on the other hand, costs 16.6% of GDP and you still get worse outcomes, on average, compared to other OECD countries. If you brought your health care system in line with other OECD countries with a public health care system at around 11% of GDP, you could literally double the size of your military and still have tons of money left over to improve social programs and wipe out all medical debt (only 0.6% of GDP, but devastating to poorer families).

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