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Beijing shrugs at U.S. call for help protecting Red Sea shipping
(www.politico.com)
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Yeah that's true. I meant: The US has no grounds asking China for help with "maintaining peace in the Middle East". I'm more objecting to the article's way of putting it, like it does here
While I definitely don't like China, "help us protect our genocidal ally from the consequences of their actions" isn't something I'd expect or want them to agree to, either.
There's no geopolitical or moral reason for China to step out of its yard, so to speak, is what I meant.
Apologies for the misunderstandin of your statement. My bad.
Why do you think China, one of the main trading partners with the West, should not be expected to participate in securing a primary trading route, especially after expressing a desire to play a more proactive role in securing the Middle East?
Certainly, the recent surge in attacks stems from the Israel/Palestine conflict. While one could argue that we all bear some responsibility for reaching this point, the attacks on trading routes are carried out by a third party financially backed by another entity, mainly Iran. These attacks, though related to the conflict, involve non-direct participants, including the ships they target. This categorizes them plainly as terror attacks on a trading route, and there's no need to let it escalate or reach a point where other uninvolved groups might be tempted to join in.
I agree; China's best move for now would be to sit and wait, maintaining distance. It gives them more breathing room. China, especially the CCP, has its interests in mind and isn't particularly interested in helping causes that don't further their goals. More "chaos" in the Middle East is something CCP leaders would likely appreciate.
These attacks were made with the stated intent of stopping international shipping from reaching Israel. Basically a DIY sea blockade in response to the war in Gaza. The only sane response to America's request here is "clean up your own mess", which is what China did. That's what I'm saying: This is Israel, and therefore America's, mess.
I get your point and understand where you're coming from. I think you're right from a certain perspective.
But I want to add that it doesn't matter that they declared they want to stop shipping to Israel; if the entire trade route is affected, it's just terrorism, plain and simple. Securing vital trade routes and sending a clear signal that this conflict won't spiral is crucial for stability.
Also, this is an international issue (trade route security), not purely an American one. While the U.S. could handle it easily by themselves, it would lead to more significant problems and conflicts in the long run.
I just believe inclusivity is always better than exclusivity.
Chaos in the Middle East would be devastating for the CCP. The existence of China as a modern nation is a dependent upon energy exports and trade which traverses this region.
They don’t have the ability to project power much beyond their first island chain. They certainly could not sustain for any length of time.
It's one of the world's busiest shipping lanes, which China uses to send its goods to the West. I feel like protecting that major trade route would be a geopolitical reason for China to step up. I get that they are currently targeting Israel's allies in the attacks, but sometimes mistakes happen and sometimes rebel groups don't share the same goals as their financial backers.
A good amount of the shipping going through the Strait of Hormuz is between China and Europe. It’s only fair that China do its fair share of the lifting.
I do find it ironic that the CCP systematically opposes the country that patrols and keeps the world’s shipping lanes open for international trade. Trade which ensures the continued existence of the CCP.
The Houtis are targeting Israeli linked ships, not Chinese ships
That is not the strait of Hormuz, grab a map before formulating an opinion on such a complex matter
Why bless your heart. What a wonderfully simple world view.
To imagine that a country which is dependent upon trade shouldn’t have a stake in keeping a trade route with its second largest trading block free from attacks.
It must be blissful to be so unaware of the impact that attacks on that area will have on shipping and insurance.
You must sleep very soundly at night.
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Exactly.