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Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden — and whether they’d come back (www.nbcnews.com)

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Then again, he knows what’s what, and like (a) the mess he inherited from the previous occupant of the job took an enormous amount of effort to deal with, like basically ALL of the efforts, really, that were to spare (and things like the border crisis, huge spike in homelessness, greedflation, etc. continue onwards even now), and so (b) to have fought the good fight would have come at the cost of enormous political capital that would have prevented other things from happening.

Enormous? I don't think Manchin was all that expensive of lay.

Abortion is the most prominent example of how Biden's positions diverge from most his base... because most his base have sex. sorry to be so blunt. It's not healthcare to his mindset because it's not something he and his partner are likely to need any time soon. and likely the same for... every friend his age. To young twenty-somethings looking to establish themselves and not get burdened with the obscene costs of having a child... it's far more than "just" healthcare.

There's other issues that his age puts him on the wrong side of- or could be conceived as such. the housing crisis, for example. in the short term (next decade,) the housing bubble is benefiting retirees resolving it means the prices come down.. and houses represent a large (quite possibly the largest) chunk of their net worth. There's also climate change, which... just isn't an issue for him. he will not live to see the consequences of failing.

and he is failing. Is he failing less badly than republicans? certainly. But if we don't get our shit together in the next few years... the world is fucked. no that's not right. The world is already fucked. we don't get our shit together, the world is fucked to death. climate change is an existential crisis. Not in the "humanity will cease to exist" existential crisis. But in the "Society will fundamentally reshape itself" sort.

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I should have admitted in my previous response that I might be biased, trying to find a shred of hope where none exists. But also I aim not to be either an optimist nor a pessimist, but a realist. I do not claim to actually know what that means here though:-).

That said, what I said earlier still seems true to me: if you live in a state that allows - maybe even enshrines? - abortion as a right, then its being banned in other states affects you none to little (unless you actively visit those states, perhaps even traveling through them on the way to other states?), while if you live in a state that bans abortions, you have MANY problems, of which that is merely one of them (a big one to be sure). So it is one issue - perhaps the biggest of our time - and yet all of that said... what are we going to ACTUALLY DO about it? Congress needs to pass a law to make a decision one way or the other. Or else individual states need to do that. So far, Congress is more divided than it has ever been (during the Civil War, the South did not send their representatives anymore, so bills actually got passed!:-P), and we are looking towards another constitutional crisis happening as soon as the very next election, possibly spilling out into actual bloodshed. I don't, but listen to the rhetoric on the side most likely to fire the first shot, and tell me that has no chance of happening, sometime in the next ten years? So yeah, I believe Biden when he says that it would be a difficult ask to get such a thing through Congress right now... that's not about what's right or what's wrong, it's about what's possible at the current time.

Also look at democracy globally - like UK with Boris Johnson, Brazil with Bolsonaro, uh... right now is not a good time for democracy it seems. I am not speaking out against it, just echoing your thoughts that we are already fucked, in so many more ways than one, since it seems that our particular brand of it (meaning: coupled with low levels of edumacashion), seems to be vulnerable to certain outside parties who may have interests in interfering with our electoral processes? :-(

And in the midst of ALL of that, what the Dems offer is... Biden. Yeah, I know, but it's not about what's ideal, it's about what is possible.

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