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I find it mildly infuriating that people still buy on Amazon 😅
Convenience and cost, means amazon isn't going anywhere. You can spend more time, and more money avoiding them if you want, but don't be upset others aren't willing.
Plus, even when you do find what you're looking for elsewhere, are Walmart, Target, and Home Depot really so benevolent? The odds of me finding what I need from a small locally owned business (at least in my area) are pretty slim.
I know that feeling all too well. The small local grocery store is, at minimum, 2 to 3 times more expensive than Walmart, or even the Dollar General a block away. The local hardware stores aren't much better.
This is also my experience. Recent example, I can buy a 1.9L container of mayonnaise for $8.99 at Costco to make homemade potato salad for my grandmother's 95th birthday party. But I forgot to prepare until the last minute and realized I had no mayo, and so I went to the local place who charged $7.99 for 443mL of mayonnaise from the same brand.
Amazon sells 3.78L of mayonnaise (dear God who needs that much mayo?) for $18.70, making them not quite as competitive as Costco in terms of price per mL, but pretty damn close, and moreover still way better than the local place.
the big boxes can operate at a loss until they choke out the local guys. after that they have a monopoly and can do whatever they want.
Increasingly I can't be confident what the quality level of products will be at those places. Amazon has huge counterfeit item and poor quality item problems that they don't care to fix. I know Target will have reasonable quality, I know if I buy a brand name product l, I'm getting that product. I know if I buy Walmart brand, the quality is lower, but not pure garbage. I currently get none of those guarantees on Amazon, even Amazon basics aren't safe from these problems.
Definitely had issues with quality and/or damage, haven't gotten a true counterfeit yet to my knowledge, but I can at least partially attribute that to the fact that I almost never buy things that aren't shipped/sold by either Amazon or the manufacturer.
When I shop I usually search for something on Amazon, check if the manufacturer has a website & it is comparably priced, check if the local stores (Target, etc.) stock it at a fair price, and if all else fails I buy through Amazon (after checking CamelCamelCamel to verify I'm getting a good deal).
Fine, then I’ll be upset at people continuing to support a company that systematically abuses its workforce.
I'd love to see the list of companies that produced all the various products in your house.
Nothing's perfect. But that doesn't mean we should accept the worse.
But of course, and I'm not saying that. But I do think it's perhaps a little bold to actively criticize a stranger for having the audacity to do business with Amazon as if they aren't, for instance, using AWS-backed websites literally every day.
I'm not saying Amazon is good, but rather that hypocritically trying to call out people for failing purity tests that you yourself almost certainly don't pass isn't a particularly productive or positive use of one's time.
Are you referring to the concept of capitalism?
It shouldn't be on the individual consumers to avoid monopolies; we need antitrust enforcement; we need to break up Amazon.
It shouldn't be indeed, but unfortunately it is. We can't just hide our personal responsibility behind the State when the State is deficient.
Unfortunately, organizing on the scale necessary to defeat Amazon is damn near impossible. I think doing so politically is our best bet.
Our personal responsibility is to make the State not deficient though, not a boycott of amazon.com or whatever you're suggesting. A boycott of even their digital and physical storefronts probably wouldn't even change much, since Amazon makes most of their profit via AWS. Something like 33% of all internet traffic goes through AWS in some fashion, so boycotting that is even harder. The only real option I can see is to make the State regulate them in some manner because all the people in the world can't fight a trillion dollar company themselves.
There are certain things I can't get anywhere near me from anyone other than Amazon, and I live in a city of 6 million people. Sadly I need to use Amazon about once a month. Getting groceries from them is ridiculous though.
It's not just about the monopoly though. Their site is rife with counterfeits and is basically Wish now. Want a GE lightbulb? There's a 50/50 chance you're getting a counterfeit that isn't UL tested so you don't know it's safe, and that's if you can even find the product at all hidden between the random name generator company listings for random garbage that's slightly similar to the search term you entered.
And if there was a competitor that sold only legit products without having to compete with AmazonBasics (who just steals designs and sells them for a cheaper price) or from JSOIY (who also steals designs), people would use them instead of Amazon.
A monopoly enables this behavior, since there are no other options.
What's a better alternative? All I know of is eBay, but I used Amazon to buy DVDs and Blu-Rays to support films, and eBay sales don't count as disc sales the same way that Amazon sales do.
Genuine question, what better alternative is there? I put a lot of effort into buying from small businesses with good morals, but I have no idea how to do this for the things I would buy online. If I don't buy from amazon, i'm buying from target, Walmart, or some other supermarket. I don't see how those are better.
Tyranny of convenience 😬
It's also so much more expensive to buy from small, local businesses. Not everyone can afford to do that, no matter how much they hate buying from Amazon or Walmart.
I can order from amazon, or spend an hour in the car to go to a store and pay a higher price.
I'm buying from amazon.
It is faster to have 20 slaves in 20 different parts of the warehouse stuff 20 different envelopes than it is to have 1 single slave go to 20 different locations in a warehouse and stuff a box.
Their obligation is just to get the product from their facilities to your door. They don't give a shit HOW it gets there.
I mean, if it were 20 different items I could probably put it down to that but there were six packets of each of the flavours and types. You'd think all the Alfredo's could go in one package, for example, not each in their own padded envelope. Does pasta even need padding? It was just ridiculous, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were a disgruntled worker engaged in a bit of malicious compliance!
It's been a last resort shop for me for the last year or so
If a place can't get me something in time, isn't available, or ultra expensive, I'll get it at Amazon
While I will exhaust all local alternatives first, Amazon is my pinch hitter when I can't find The Thing anyplace else.
We've shifted the grocery past of our shopping to Thrive Market.
I'm in the process of manually transferring my wishlists for ebooks and physical books to Kobo and B&N atm. Then I'll be transferring my other wishlists to Notebook.
After all that I'll just use Amazon like a search engine.
Easy to find stuff