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That's not cheese. It's "cheese product."
To my understanding, it is actually made of cheese, just cheese that has been melted, pasteurized to extend shelf life and then cooled back into solid cheese again.
Not quite. You're almost there. The manufacturers add emulsifying chemicals and preservatives.
Its salted curds like cheese, but its not matured. Instead mineral salts are added which absorb the water, the same sort of stuff used in corned beef, bacon and ham.
The colouring is artificial. Its naturally a light grey colour.
If it was cheese it would be legal to label it as such.
It's the same reason you couldn't call peanutbutter "peanuts"
Americans owe the peanut butter grandma a huge debt. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Desmond
It is, though.
American cheese is a type of processed cheese in conjunction with sodium citrate, which permits it to be pasteurized without its components separating.
It's "orange" and "oil"
You're thinking of cheese wizz or spray cheese.
No, I'm not.
It's American cheese. The objectively superior cheese for melting on a burger.
only because it's easy to melt, not because it actually taste better than other cheese options such as cheddar, swiss, or pepper jack.
Oh, but it does actually taste better specifically on a burger.
American "cheese product" can fuck right off. Gouda melts just as well and actually tastes like....you know....cheese.
No, it doesn't melt nearly as well. It does once you add emulsifying salts to the Gouda.
You stock emulsifying salts?
Yes, do you not? I'm still going through the package I bought 3 years ago.
If you like eating melted plastic
Are you scared of emulsifying agents, or what do you call "plastic"? There is no plastic in American cheese.
if you equate not liking something with being "scared", that says much ore about you than it does me.
I don't feel the need to misrepresent things I don't like. So why do you?
i haven't. just because you disagree with me doesn't make you right. why are you so self-important that you feel the compulsion to lie? are you so insecure that starting petty fights with internet strangers is your only way to make it through the day?
it's just cheese. it's not that important (and neither are you).
You stated that American cheese contains plastic. It doesn't. Why do you choose to lie about this?
I don't "disagree", this is a factual statement with a factual answer. You are simply wrong. Why don't you accept that?
it's pretty bold to lie like this when there's a log of my comments just above yours showing that i didn't say that. but, go on and show me the quote where i said it "contains plastic"
no, you lied.
and that fact is that you made up a little story to make yourself feel important.
except you lied about what i said-- i never said, "American cheese contains plastic"
You literally said: "If you like eating melted plastic". Are you going to claim that this doesn't imply that American cheese contains plastic?
It's pretty bold to lie like this when there's a log of your comments just above yours showing you said that.
i'm not responsible for what you infer. if you misunderstood what i said due to poor language skills or for whatever reason, that's not my fault.
but i accept this as an admission that you lied.
This might be the boldest attempt at gaslighting I've ever seen. Congratulations!
it's not my first time being gaslit by someone with too much time and not enough sense. really...you did such a terrible job, leaving proof of your lies all over the place.
I can't believe I followed this bullshit so far down. You both sound like children arguing over whether "if you like eating plastic" means "there is plastic in American cheese"
I'll clear this up. "If you like eating melted plastic" is a metaphor. It does NOT imply that there is plastic in cheese, and just because the other person took that statement literally, it does not make them a liar. They misunderstood and it could have been cleared up easily by just saying "not literally", instead of hustling insults and twisting each other's words.
You both keep pointing out how desperate the other one is to prove their petty point, but neither of you were very eager to move on. I'm sorry to say you have both lost this battle.
Kenji Lopez-Alt has a cool video where he uses American cheese as the emulsifier to make some less-melty cheeses participate in a grilled cheese. I have been using it more for its emulsifying agents than anything lately: https://youtu.be/CD8UTr5mMVk?si=n5xOumvtBqromQtB
Not just any cheese product, but "Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product", because they got in trouble with the FDA a couple of times by calling them "food" hilariously.