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DoorDash makes tipping an afterthought to protest New York City’s wage raise
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Pay your people so I don’t have to pay them.
You're still paying them, just less directly. It's not like a restaurant goes to a money tree to get wages for its employees; it's the same money you gave them for your food. You can price that cost directly into the menu items or have it be a separate tip, but the only effective difference is vibes.
That’s why I refuse to use self-checkout.
The way I see it, I'm either going to be "checking out my groceries", or I'm going to be "standing in line", watching a cashier work.
I don't see a compelling reason why I should spend more of my valuable time waiting and watching someone do a job than just doing that job and moving on with my day.
naw, man. Look at it this way: if you're checking yourself out, you're doing labor for them. Maybe every once in a while, you pay yourself a candy bar. Because fuck'em.
Waiting is also labor.
I am spending my time at a task I don't want to be performing, because it is demanded as a condition of acquiring something I want.
Both are menial labors, requiring no skill. The only way to value them is by time, and "waiting in line" takes much more.
You do you.
What does self-checkout have to do with this paying your workers? Not using it just means you have to stand in line on regular checkout. That's not benefiting anyone.
You want to give a multimillion corporation free labor so the cfo can buy a new private jet, that’s your prerogative. It’s not mine.
What free labour though? The act of using the little scanner before you put the items in my bag? Yeah, I'd rather do that and go through checkout in 5 seconds than watching someone else scanning my grocieries for 2 minutes (which I then have to put in my bag again).
I've someone else get's a private jet because I save time ... well, that's just a win-win.
you do realize that most large chain grocery stores cut back on check-out lanes because of self-checkout, right? You have to wait in line if you don't want to use self-checkout because of the cutting back. You're not saving time. You're just waiting extra or resigning to checking yourself out. It's shittier service and you know it.
No idea what you talking about, I'm definitly saving time. Even if there was no line at all at the regular checkout, self checkout is still faster, by a large margin.
At regular checkout a person has to literally pick up every single individual item again and scan it. Even if they are fast, that takes 1-2 minutes. It takes 5 seconds on the self-checkout to scan the mobile scanner and pay with the CC.
Self checkout is the best thing that happend to shopping.
you know, when I was a kid, safeway used to employ enough employees such that there were no lines for checking out. Well, they got bought out, self-checkout became a thing, and now there's always a line. During peak hours, you get to wait in line for self-checkout and watch people slowly check themselves out like it's somehow still a brand new concept. You're celebrating the decline of service and claiming it's the "best thing that happened to shopping". That's so sad.
I don't see how watching some guy scan my grocciers is "service". I already walk to through the store picking up each item, so it cost me nothing to just scan them while collecting them.
There should totally be some regular checkouts for the elderly or peolpe with disabilites, but other than that, I don't get what's so great about them or why you're so nostalgic for them.
i already explained it
I prefer the option to check myself out. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue about "resigning to checking yourself out" to people who like it. Those self-checkouts that weigh everything are awful but I haven't seen one of those in a while.
I don't go grocery shopping for service. I go to get my groceries and go home. I am capable of scanning my own groceries and prefer not gambling on if the bagger knows what they are doing.
I prefer scanning my own groceries to the point where if there's a line for self-checkout and an open staffed checkout, I'll have a closer look at the self-checkout situation and will wait if it looks like it won't take very long.
Unless it's Walmart as their self-checkout is usually a busy mess and more fickle than the ones at the grocery stores I go to.
I'm not British. Waiting in line is labor, not the national sport. It is something I would rather not be doing, but I am forced to do as a condition of acquiring my groceries.
Self-checkout takes much less labor, valued in the only way that menial labor can be valued: time.
What? And what does being British have to do with it?
https://greatbritishmag.co.uk/uk-culture/do-brits-really-love-to-queue/
I prefer self checkout for several reasons. And I agree with you - let's pay workers a living wage. That being said, I don't put 100% of the financial reponsibility on employers. I feel we (the consumers) need to acknowledge that employers aren't the sole beneficiaries in this system. Translation; I want a living wage policy to be implemented but also I realize that this means an increase in the price I pay for (some) services. With this in mind, maybe I should receive a discount for using self checkout. Alternatively, how would you feel about being charged directly for the amount of time required for a "checker" to scan your items & ring you up? For example if you paid $0.33/minute this would cover a $20/hr wage.
Disclaimer: This "shared responsibility" can't be universally applied across all goods & services; employers don't get carte blanche to pass 100% of these costs onto the consumer. A living wage policy might entail some sort of agreed upon "max profit" policy or "open books" / transparent finances approach.
I feel giving free labor to a multibillion corporation is wrong and no it does not mean we have to pay higher prices. It does mean we can demand c-suite and board members to do without a ~~dinner~~ summer home or few.