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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.

Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Sorry, who are the Democratic Muslim elected officials enacting lgbtq+ flag bans?

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Hamtramck, Michigan voted in a Muslim majority city council, who promptly banned Pride flags… for reasons:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[-] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago
[-] grte@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that article is a little more complicated than “Democrats get Muslim elected.“

Are any of the elected officials in question even Democrats? The article doesn't say.

[-] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Biden won with like 85% of the vote in Hamtranck.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A little trick to reading most news articles: If the person or people its about are Democrats, the article will tell you.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

It's happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days

Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn't yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.

[-] Azuth@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago

That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks

Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s

As usual, Simpsons did it first

[-] carnimoss@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yep people like using race and religion as excuses to protect their hate towards queer people. We've known this for a while but people seem surprised when people other than white Christians do this.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s false and offensive stereotyping. Polling shows over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights and treatment. Only 15% of Pentecostal Christians in the US agree. Meanwhile, Muslim politicians like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are very supportive of LGBT issues to the point where they lost the votes of some Muslim conservatives.

Stop trying to make stuff up.

[-] drhugsymcfur@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So? Judge millions of people by the actions of a politician?

There’s a Christian politician on west coast who proposed a bill giving death penalty for anyone who curses their parents, because the Old Testament said it. Should we judge all Christians by that guy? Absolutely not. Stop trying to stereotype.

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