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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

particularly the part about how it takes a huge tragedy for the population to realize that maybe we should make society nice for other people.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is anymore.

[-] negativenull@startrek.website 22 points 11 months ago

If Ulvade and/or SandyHook didn't change anything, nothing else will. :/

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

What's astounding to me is any of us old enough to remember 9/11 remember the phrase "9/11 changed everything." But school after school has massacres of children and it changes nothing.

[-] negativenull@startrek.website 19 points 11 months ago

I remember it well. 9/11 did change lots of things (not for the better either), but it did galvanize the nation. Now my son has to have active-shooter drills in school and we have to act like it's normal. I guess that is new/changed.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It galvanized the nation for about 4 days, until GWB and other prominent politicians set the populace upon itself, and the divide widened.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Well, you don't want the kind of change that 9/11 brought.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

The difference is that 9/11 was able to be channeled into xenophobia. The same can't really happen with school shootings. The 40k mindset of hate being a valuable and limited resource hits way too close to home.

And it's all a tragedy.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

COVID should have done something. It was a world wide issue.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Politically, it did do something. It was a useful wedge issue for republican politicians to take advantage of, at the cost of people's lives.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I meant something good.
That's what we're talking about.

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