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Chris Gloninger wove the reality of global heating into his forecasts in the conservative heartland of Iowa. Not everyone was receptive.

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[-] theyresocool@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s crazy to talk to folks with only a couple of grams of brain matter. They say that the weather is changing, but they think magic sky man do it.

Magic sky man scary me no like. Bad man make planet hot because we be naughty.

I used to listen and try to understand when I lived in rural counties in the US. Now all I hear is..

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[-] tikitaki@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I used to listen and try to understand when I lived in rural counties in the US. Now all I hear is…

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

This patronizing attitude is part of the reason politicians like Trump has become popular. He talks to these people who the "civilized" part of the country is totally ignoring. You care about climate change, and so do I. But what if you live near a coal mine that has slowly been phased out? You see your town which your grandfather lived in slowly rots away. You see America as a failing country - you see stores closing. You see people moving away. People dying from opiate overdose. Unemployment and depression

These people have real and legitimate grievances. Their government has failed them - which is why anti-establishment figures like Trump is such a lightning rod for their energy. Then we go and tell them that we need to make sacrifices for the climate. What are they supposed to think? What more do they have to give?

Ignoring these people and pretending like they don't matter or are totally irrational is going to help lead to fascism in this country. Any real revolutionary movement will have to incorporate the whole of America. We need these people on our side.

[-] charlieb@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cry me a river. Clinton had a plan to retrain and retool these coal towns your describing into productive green energy leaders and they rejected it because she eats babies and wind farms kill birds, or whatever. They are totally irrational and I'm not going to keep pretending otherwise. The real government failure is lack of education spending and critical thinking skills (thanks GOP) that is going to take generations to correct.

Edit: I'll add there are sparks of "hope" in rural america now that farmers are seeing the impacts of climate change effecting their yields, I think they are starting to come around. Probably too late, but it's something...

[-] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

So how do we prevent the rise of fascism this generation? There's already serious and increasing calls to violent action, since of which have been acted on, with little to no consequences.

[-] charlieb@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Impossible to say, there is no easy or immediate fix that I can imagine. I've basically accepted the underlying threat of fascism is something we are going to be dealing with for the rest of our time on the planet. Continue to vote to keep fascists off the levers of power, continue to protest whenever they have the levers, and pray the wheels of justice ground finely for enemies of democracy. Perhaps our kids or grandkids will find themselves in a better situation for their times...

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

They are totally irrational and I’m not going to keep pretending otherwise

The real government failure is lack of education spending and critical thinking skills (thanks GOP) that is going to take generations to correct.

We do ourselves no favors by reinforcing the cultural divisions drawn by the ~~upper classes~~ "media elite". We have more in common with rural conservatives than with wealthy liberals, and we should stop pretending otherwise. Continued disenfranchisement only serves to divide us more.

I’ll add there are sparks of “hope” in rural america now that farmers are seeing the impacts of climate change effecting their yields, I think they are starting to come around.

That's just reality creeping in past the bullshit cultural propaganda of the last 50 years. It has always been true that low-income rural counties share the same problems and interests as the lower class urban progressives. We just need to stop feeding into it.

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