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PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country's secular values.

The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.

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[-] Locrin@lemmy.world 133 points 9 months ago

Islam is so touchy. Even pointing out Mohammed was a bandit and a pedophile gets them going and that is just straight facts anyone can get from reading about his life.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 87 points 9 months ago

Religious extremists are the touchy ones. Plenty of Muslim folks who go on with their lives in peace.

I do agree that islamist extremists are the worst.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 38 points 9 months ago

To be honest, the Nationalist Christians (Nat-C’s) that we have here at home are pretty fucking unsettling. They know that it’s their god-given right to be in charge of everything and they will “save” everyone by trying to force their twisted interpretation of religious texts onto the populace with zero compromise, because “that’s god’s plan”.

They’re just as bad as Islamic extremists; they’re just committing their violence in more official channels and in a slower fashion, up until the day that they manage to get an unshakable hold on power (read: establish a “theocratic” dictatorship, like the Republic of Gilead from Handmaid’s Tale, which they took as an aspirational goal instead of a cautionary story).

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

Yep. They're killing people through legislation and propaganda, instead of more directly observable ways. But it's still clear

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Yeah, at the most, the Muslims in my life would've said "hey I find that disrespectful can you please not" and go about their day.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'd argue those muslims are not properly following the text of their religion.

Same for the more "tolerant" Christians, but that's not the point of this conversation.

[-] dotMonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago
[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You could make that argument. It would just be a baseless emotional argument disputed by facts.

Read the books man. It's all right there in the text.

[-] dotMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I have studied them for years.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Give them power and let's see how they behave.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 22 points 9 months ago

In Europe there are more Muslim refugees though, than, for example, in North America which gets more regular Muslim immigrants.

It's a specific problem in Europe with an influx of refugees from war torn and poor countries who are often troubled, more extreme in their religion and potentially less educated (because they fled from shitty countries).

I guess it's more connected to those circumstances than with Islam in itself. Statistically, more educated and better off people are less religious. I suspect that's the same with Muslims?!

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

You don't get to say "some Muslims are in peace". Muslims are part of a religion that is causing a lot of troubles.

When someone is part of a big organization, like the police, one does not get to say "not all of us are pigs". If they are not raising their hand and telling on the shitty people causing problems, then everyone is the problem.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Everyone says this bullshit until it's their group causing the problems and then all of a sudden they deserve mercy and understanding for how complex their situation is.

Most Muslims are decent people. If they weren't, the west would be in a continuous state of violence. People like you are just racist assholes looking for any excuse to justify your prejudice.

You don't get to judge an entire group by the worst members without it coming back to bite you in the ass some day.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If I were part of a religion that is so extrem that is killing people and attacking members of the LGBT community, etc, I would 100% leave said religion/group. Its not really that hard to do it. A decent person wouldn't be a part of those kind of groups.

[-] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

I mean... you're a citizen of a country, right?

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Once again a stupid analogy. I can't be not a citizen of any country. You can be not a member of any religion.

[-] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can choose to leave a country and join a different one. But you haven't, so you belong to it.

But your thought processes are clearly blocked. I'm certainly not going to try to open them. Closed minds are boring.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You wouldn't give a shit if you did. Most of my Muslim friends aren't religious at all, pro-LGBT and everything. They still get shat on by racist fucks like you. You don't care about people.

[-] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 9 months ago

your addiction to analogies hasn't helped you a bit into at least making proper analogies

[-] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And your education has sadly failed you in teaching you what an analogy is.

An analogy is a comparison. I wasn't comparing, just trying to teach you a basic logical thought process. Don't worry, I've given up on that. I can see why your teachers failed. Prejudice is a hell of an intelligence blocker.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh so you have the whole world figured out now? Collective punishment is for fascists.

Fucking piece of shit. You're no different from the intolerant people you hate so much.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

Quick glance tells me you're mexican.. Which Cartel do you work for then?

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cartels aren't a religion that are trying to expand over the world.

It is honestly, with all due respect, a very stupid comparison.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago

Just saying; your take wasn't exactly enlightened either.

[-] jedi@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

I believe every extremist is touchy. Fuck religion!

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

You know you don't need to virtue signal "all religions!" in a thread specifically about islamist terrorism, right? Do the "all religion" thing when it's a christian, sikh, buddhist, etc. sawing the head off a school teacher in the street.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

They’re cowards is what they are. Plain and simple.

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