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[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago

But Ukraine can't even get enough AGTMs and shells. God forbid mentioning atacms, almost two fucking years!

I can't believe that Netanjahu is more trustworthy than Zaluzhny.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

all US puppets suffer the same fate in the end

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 9 months ago

Before we proceed to discuss this valuable political point, what is your opinion on JWBush's 1990 speech in Verkhovna Rada? Or you are of that bunch who thought oatmeal cookies on Maidan in 2014 were how these ammies bought Ukraine's independence?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I'm of the opinion that US wanted political capture of as much of former USSR as it could get ever since USSR dissolved, and has succeeded in creating vassal states out of most former Soviet republics. Ukraine tried to maintain its neutrality between the west and Russia and largely succeeded until US ran a violent coup in 2014, at which point the legitimate elected government was overthrown.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 months ago

You know nothing about Ukraine.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 months ago

Both my parents were born in Ukraine, but do tell me more.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago

Last time I checked, the birthplace of parents doesn't qualify you for any domain specific knowledge.

Just as you don't know a thing about the chicken Kiev speech, you lack any deep, actual knowledge of what life in Ukraine is. Or rather was before 2013.

And yeah, the whole quora post you link to is laughable - how much things does it get wrong.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 months ago

You're right, it's the time I've spent learning about the subject that qualifies me to speak on the subject and how I know you're full of shit.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You evade answering questions like debt collectors.

Did you ever read a book on Ukraine's history? Name one?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago

I love how you keep trying to derail the discussion to make it about me instead of staying on topic of what's being discussed. It's more sophisticated trolling, I'll give you that. Here are a few books for you

  • Грани и рубежи by Гайда Ф. А.
  • Украинский вопрос в Российской империи by Миллер А.
  • Борьба за Украину и битва под Конотопом by Бабулин И. Б.
  • Імперія пам'яті. Російсько - українські стосунки в радянській історичній уяві. by Єкельчик С.
[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I can’t believe that Netanjahu is more trustworthy than Zaluzhny.[sic]

Can you touch on this a little further please? I’m not sure I follow.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There was a lot of back and forth over the last two years whether UAF can be trusted. Either about applying the weapons as agreed (ie not using atacms against muscovite mainland), or with regards to safety of the provided assets (keeping weapons in Ukraine and not selling it further to baddies). Like, there's a severe shortage of atgms, and as of lately majority of russian hardware is hit either with artillery or with FPV drones, or direct hit weapons such as RPGs.

At the same time Netanjahu is a very risky political actor who has proven his, um, tendency to manipulate the political spectrum, who's government absolutely fucked up the insurrection, and who governs a closest thing to an apartheid system since SA. Ffs his minister of internal security is so far right, he was expelled from IDF! And these people are promised unconstrained access to weapons.

This makes me sad.

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