News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.
Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.
7. No duplicate posts.
If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.
All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
I notice you have absolutely nothing to say about what I said about ethnic groups. Is it maybe because that would mean that systematic murder and displacement of the Palestinian people would be a genocide just the same as the expulsion of Sephardic Jews from Spain?
If you're going to murder thousands of civilians just be a monoethnicity, that way they can't retaliate with without being genocidal! Modern nations hate this one trick.
Why are Sephardic Jews an ethnicity but Palestinians not an ethnicity?
That's how they're categorized on Wikipedia.
I presumed that the various Jewish ethnicities had more genetic drift than Arabs due to the diaspora, but upon further reading I'm not sure that's the case:
It's a good question. I suspect this ethnic classification is how they classify themselves.
Oh, well, if Wikipedia says so...
On what basis are you making your claim that Palestinians are a distinct ethnic group? Even pro-Palestinian organizations refer to them as Arabs. As far as I'm aware, Palestinians only began existing as a group when local Arab nationalists emerged as a regional group opposing Jews in the levant.
I think calling Palestine a nation and not an ethnicity is more accurate, but I will correct my language if you can provide me a source.
Yes, and Sephardic Jews refer to themselves as Jews. They're still a distinct ethnic group. The difference according to you is, apparently, 'Wikipedia says so.'
Looking forward to you providing me with better sources than Wikipedia then...
https://www.stats.govt.nz/tools/2018-census-ethnic-group-summaries/palestinian
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S014717670900056X
https://forward.com/tag/palestinian/
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2023/11/confused-about-the-terms-you-hear-connected-to-the-israel-hamas-war-this-will-help/
https://www.ncesc.com/from-whom-are-the-modern-palestinians-descended/
https://spa.sdsu.edu/documents/Flanigan2015_Article_CommunityServiceProvisionByPol.pdf
I'm guessing you won't consider those "better sources" than a page anyone with an agenda can edit. But I'll keep going if you want.
Summarizing:
NZ considers "Palestinian" an ethnic group in its census.
The Abu-Rayya family refers to Palestinian ethnicity in their study regarding personal identification as Israeli or Palestinian.
A link to list of every article on forward.com that contains the tag, "Palestinian," (why did you post this?)
A student article in Ann Arbor's student newspaper refers to Palestinians as, "an ethnic group."
An article full of videos disproving Palestinians are descended from Philistines, in which several of the videos seem to totally contradict your position. Did you watch them?:
A paper that refers to Palestinians as an ethnic group in a paper about service organizations for middle east minorities
While I appreciate that you bothered to present sources, these seem to just be google hits for "Palestinian ethnicity" rather than articles specifically chosen from credible sources because they support your case. Did you read them?
If you want to keep going please provide sources that are making this specific claim with evidence and not just articles that mention the words ethnic and Palestinian together in an unrelated context.
It seems to me that Palestinian is better classified as a national, not ethnic, identity. They consider themselves Arabs and were referred to collectively as such until Mandatory Palestine ended.