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How sad that it's come to this. On the other hand, maybe if Mr. Rogers was still around, we'd have someone to talk to Republicans about kindness.
Republicans have tried demonizing him as woke trying to indoctrinate our children. So unfortunately unlikely.
Demonizing probably the nicest man in history is a good indicator that you're the villain.
The irony is, he is woke. Dude was literally Kunta Kinte.
Fred Rogers is the guy this particular thread of the post is referring to. He would have made an interesting casting choice for Kunta Kinte.
Though it could be argued Mr. Rogers was woke. That would, however, make it hard to argue woke is a bad thing.
that’s because “wokeism” has become a right wing dogwhistle for basically ‘anything that forces us to confront our shitty and outdated ideas’.
They did the same thing with "social justice" before that and "political correctness" before that. Words don't mean the same thing to conservatives.
Whether woke is good or bad depends entirely on how it's defined. I generally see it as an antithesis to ignorance. So a combination of both educated and rational thinking.
Sometimes it describes things that are educated and irrational thinking, which is ironically what the right does a lot. Basically fear mongering.
Then you just use the two interchangeably to make it sound like rational observations are radical.
Well, your first definition is the original one. The second one is the disingenuous one conservatives use. They did the same thing with "social justice" and "political correctness". Conservatives never come up with anything or good, they just ruin shit.
Oh I know. But even then they're intentionally inconsistent so the good and bad gets mixed in together.
"some people suck". That is the unfortunate truth of any society. But all my examples started as good things. Shitty people stirred shit into them. It has to be said that people who actively fight progressive movements are assholes. Any history book can tell you that, if they don't burn it first.
They would call him too woke.
Fox News called him evil, so… at least he’s not woke.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/
Ah yes the Presbyterian minister who devoted his life to teaching kids we should Love Thy Neighbor and it's ok to have feelings.
Of course the fake ass Christians hate him. They'd call Jesus a longhaired communist if he came back today.
They wouldn't listen to him, and would call Mr. Rogers woke trash. The current Republican Party and its supporters are a hot mess.
Depending on how you define “modern” Fox News did call him evil in 2007.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/
There is also that whacko on Newsmax that calls ~~the Muppets~~ Sesame Street a bunch of evil communists.
This is him when he was on Fox but he has ranted about wanting to debate that well known commie Big Bird a couple times while on Newsmax.
https://youtu.be/LWFCja7MTPI?si=SstDGuWFht9N4fLn
To be clear: this man wants to debate a fictional character on a beloved children's TV show and Fox and Newsmax continued to employ him.
Haha, what even is this timeline?
I need The Muppet-churian Candidate...... Oooh and Dr. Strangemuppet!
I did not know about this one.
How far gone does one have to be that saying this on TV is not only okay, but encouraged?
I forgot about this.