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Europe has had the benefit of not having Apple building walls through the smartphone market as much as they have here. Americans flocked to them and elected them the trend setters, and Apple's design philosophy is as aggressively closed as it can possibly be. So we have an entire generation now raised with Apple devices in hand that balk at the idea of using anything else, meanwhile Apple keeps competitors locked out of the ecosystem.
Apple has trained far too many Americans to never, ever think beyond the defaults; downloading another app to talk to people is verboten.
Europe has had a properly competitive smartphone market where all the major players are using the same open system, so none of them are setting trends that the others can't follow.
That’s a ridiculous take. Before I entered the Apple walled garden, ok, long before, my favorite texting app was Pidgin. Open source, cross platform, yadda yadda … tried to integrate with all then common texting protocols. Can you really not understand the convenience of that integration?
If Apple supports RCS in a separate app, I won’t use it even if it is installed by default.
If Apple integrates it into iMessage like they did with SMS, ill use t all the time _as a better user experience _
Apple is doing the same thing in Europe as it is the US. The difference is that people in Europe switched to WhatsApp, where people in the US stayed on SMS and got used to iMessage. It’s a group dynamic problem, not a problem that Apple is forcing upon anyone or not allowing (although it could do something against it, but why should they).
Also: not every major smartphone company in Europe is using the "same open system", Apple is very much here as well.