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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

The definition of "human enough" would be a social and legal issue, not a scientific one, because there is no scientific definition of 'human enough.' Scientists can tell you what is going on with a fetus at any given time in the pregnancy, but not if that means it is too advanced to abort. Theoretically, you could abort at any time in the pregnancy and it is not up to or possible for science to tell you when.

[-] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

To accentuate the argument, relying on science here is not a good idea because concepts like “viability” will very likely change with technological advancement. In 100 years, it could be perfectly possible for a fertilized egg to grow into a baby outside a mother’s womb. Eggs or sperm could be genetically modified to correct for disorders and syndromes. What would viability really mean in this scientific context?

This argument tormented one of the SCOTUS justices on the original Roe vs. Wade decision.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Could I have a source for the viability dilemma with Roe V. Wade?

Would love to hear more about this

[-] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I highly recommend people read / listen to The Brethren by Woodward. It is a political narration of the inner workings of the Supreme Court by one of the same reporters who took down Nixon.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just added to my reading list, thanks for the suggestion

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yet concept of "feeling" to make the decision is accepted. I see few problems with it. 1st mood change. 2nd everyone feels different. 3rd anthropomorphism . 4th feelings change much faster than scientific progress.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well i still find it much worse deciding based on feelings than lets say based on level of cognition or consciousness of fetus by properly defined and tested rules.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since we can't define or explain consciousness, that would be difficult.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can't, but it doesn't mean people in the field should not try to make educated conclusion. It also doesn't mean that random dude out there is wiser.

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