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"Rights come with obligations" brother the whole point of rights is that you are always entitled to them no matter what!! You could be baby murderer 3000 and you'd STILL have your rights guaranteed because that's the whole point of universal, inalienable human rights you dumdum
Their version of rights are privileges given to a select few that pass their virtue test and the all encompassing
Much like voting in the us is a “right” in practice it becomes a privilege.
Rights are immutable. Privileges come with obligations. Privileges are freely given, once earned, and freely taken away by those in power.
Rights exist outside of the power struggle, what the libs consider rights they seem to have confused with privileges.
Also oppressed people by definition are denied their rights, so they wouldn't even have the obligations.
I mean fuck that guy for sure. But do you really believe everyone is entitled to inalienable rights? Above is a long story (popular here, it seems) about Lenin acting on his own authority to have people shot for causing some dissatisfactions. What about nazis, or cops. I don't give a fuck for their inalienable rights, do you?
Yes. It's not all that hard to recognize the human rights of those people and to understand that sometimes they must be shot.
So... 'aliable' then? I don't even disagree, I just don't pretend to believe in it.
No, they still have human rights. Like, in a war you shoot soldiers who are trying to shoot you. If they surrender, you treat them as POWs, you don't torture them or murder them. If a person is harming other people, you stop the harm but you don't dehumanize them. It's important to be consistent here.
It's important to draw the distinction that those cops and Nazis you mentioned are in the conversation because of choices they make or beliefs they hold. Were they to stop making those choices, they would not be subject to violence. Even with the choices they make, were they to not harm others with their beliefs, I wouldn't have a problem with them holding said beliefs. The obvious problem is fascism doesn't build a cabin in the woods isolating themselves from everyone else.