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Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

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[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did I say anything about a church?

Are you an actual human being? I don't give a shit about the church, I don't give a shit about religion in general at all actually.

The fact you mentioned that raises my suspicion that you are a bot or something

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I am mentioning the church. He was a leader for a denomination of Christianity infamous for the degree of its anti-LGBT stances. Decades feeding the hate machine. And I bet you anything that today they those people who said a thousand good morning to him are happy that he killed himself.

The final unavoidable conclusion of Christianity is to kill its own.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am mentioning the church

I know you are, I'm simply asking you what the fuck that has to do with what I said.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What an uneducated comment. Baptists don't inherently mean Anti-LGBTQ, it's a common low-church denomination which mainly subscribes to the doctrine of grace by faith alone and is characterized by the belief in credo-baptism. It's got nothing to do with LGBTQ politics.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Citation needed that Southern Baptists are pro-LGBT

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You said Baptist, not Southern Baptist. They are a different thing.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ you are something else. Fine citation needed that BAPTIST are pro-LGBT. There, can you do that now or is there some other dodge you would like to try first?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some baptists are pro lgbt. Some aren't. The LGBT question doesn't define what being a baptist is.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The religion itself is bigoted

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To mine, me. Jesus Christ, how did you see this going? You are going to convince me that they aren't foaming at the mouth homophobes by trying to find some other religion that is even more so?

You can't bullshit me on this. I have been around and attended Baptist services throughout my childhood. I know what their stance is on this issue because I have seen it. People who openly call gay people slurs I won't repeat, who joke and celebrate HIV.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People who openly call gay people slurs I won't repeat, who joke and celebrate HIV.

That's not an okay thing to do within and according to Christianity. And that's not all baptists, either.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very well. Please show me the passages that backup your claim. You can use English, been a while since I studied Greek. I will start

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Is NKJV acceptable translation for you? I know the NIV is a bit more accurate so I understand if you want to use that instead.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago

At what point does that say to call gay people slurs and to judge them? How does this justify implementing discriminatory laws against them? It even says "and such were some of you", showing that they were likely guilty of this at one point.

These commands also only applied to Christians. They weren't to be enforced outside of the Church. You cited 1 Corinthians 6, however turning back a book to 1 Corinthians 5, the following is stated at verse 12&13:

‭What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. ‘Expel the wicked person (someone who was having sex with his father's wife who was unrepentant and without shame) from among you.’

So basically, it's not really a Christian's business what non-christians do. It's only their business to bring them to Christ. Christ can then work within them, and it will be up to a Christian to help support them in resisting temptations to commit those sins.