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Imagine giving a shit if someone makes porn in their free time.
I had a home ec teacher that was found out to do playboy spreads. As a young teenager I did not care. My parents did not care(they were hippies). Who cared the most were dumbass older teenage boys for some reason writing her porn name on the chalkboard before she came in one day. It was like they were angry at her for turning them on. That’s when I realized men’s sex education and support for processing complex thought and feelings around relationships and sex is abysmal.
It might not have been about making them horny. They just found something to bully the teacher about and used it. Teenagers are monsters.
Teenagers raised by monsters are monsters.
Nah, seen plenty monstrous teenagers with decent parents. But with monster parent its more likely monster teenagers.
But maybe your right, i cant see inside homes, maybe all monster teenagers have parental deficiencies.
Actually agree.
IMHO we are entirely the product of our environment and upbringing: initially a blank slate. Deficiency or poison in either produces problems.
Sometime those deficiencies and poisons are parents.
Nah, there are definitely correlation and causation in a lot of cases but there are definitely also kids who are just born evil, as if they're infuriated at the world for their having been born.
They're a rare breed but far too dangerous to write off when discussing things that affect the public.
I fundamentally disagree that someone can be born evil.
Someone can be born a psychopath, but they can still be raised to logically understand the norms of society and mimic them.
There are, however, a couple of generations born with lead poisoning from leaded petrol: that will stop a brain functioning properly.
How can you be so sure?
If you don't understand or respect your emotions it isnt like you suddenly don't have them, you still do you just don't know what to do with them.
Were you a young teenage girl? Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys' psychology. There's absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.
I would agree with your other replier on this. Furthering that, I would say this is the teenage boys' attempt to challenge authority by undermining her authority with her open sexuality as a tool. They found a leverage to have power over her. And they're going to use it to the full extent. They're at a point in time of their growth where they find their social hierarchy. Almost every male mammal engages in this. They pick fights and they learn where they stand by winning and losing. And they want to get as high as possible. This explains the anger that you pointed out, because challenging authority and fighting is inherently similar emotion to anger.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Please let the adults who are educated continue discussing these topics. Literally everything you just said was wrong.
If you're an adult, you should learn to address the argument, not make ad hominem attacks.
Dear kavanaugh,
Stop raping women and pretending like it’s just the beer talking.
We sincerely hate you,
Women.
You still lack the ability to address the content. You're just spewing out things you're familiar with. You're not actually engaging in any discussion.
No one should rape anyone. I don't see how this is relevant to this discussion.
Which part of what he said was wrong?
Apparently nothing. Since I've had 0 actual counter argument so far. All I got is name calling and starwman.
Ah. I see you are one of those types of bigots.
As you surely didn’t forget a whole array of other non binary genders some of which actually get beaten to death for ‘turning straight men on.’
Also some cultures will stone women for ‘turning men on enough to rape them’. That has nothing to do with ‘challenging authority’ in fact it’s gross you even compare it to that. It’s all about attacking vulnerable.
Somebody's gotta do it! 😁
Probably not a popular take but I can at least understand it from the perspective of it just being easier to put her on paid leave than to play whackamole punishing every kid who starts bullying her or disrespecting her because stupid teenagers.
It's the dumbfuck no tolerance logic that inadvertently encourages kids to respond to being bullied by pulling a knife since they gettin' punished either way for being in a fight, but it does make the twisted kind of sense you can expect from admins who hate nothing more than doing their jobs instead of sitting at their desk playing minesweeper all day.
Perpetuating the stigma isn't going to help either. Kids take their cues from adults.
Humans are social creatures. We are affected direct and indirectly by other people whether you like it or not (unless you want to become a hikikomori).
The fact that other people give a shit about about someone making porn in their free time, should make you give a shit. This is irrelevant to whether you think they should give a shit or not. Your lack of ability to give a shit signals your lack of foresight into how this affects your life as well as lack of social skills. If she wants to be an OF model, and therefore chooses to do OF content, that's fine. If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she's stupid.
L take and completely wrong. Fuck people for not only judging for something harmless, but also for directly impacting her life because of it when she didn't impact anyone else's.
What part am I wrong about? Her OF account has clearly affected her job as a teacher. The evidence of what I said is right there. You're in denial of facts of what has already occurred. If she didn't see this coming, she's stupid.
I don't care if you think people shouldn't be judgmental. You're being judgement of me right now. And I am of you right now. People always are, always have been and always will. That's how humans work. Your denial or calling it out as bad is irrelevant in your ability to plan for the future.
Edit: Let me be clear. I am not defending the judgmental. I am pointing out the lack of social understanding.
In that same vain then, I shouldn't dress "slutty" in public otherwise I'm just asking to get raped right? Get fucked.
Because you couldn't point out what was wrong, you decided to take a strawman? No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn't consistent.
It would be: If she doesn't want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.
If this teacher doesn't want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.
If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:
She must've wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.
Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.
She must have wanted to be raped or she wouldn't have dressed like that.
No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn't consistent.
It would be: If she doesn't want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.
If this teacher doesn't want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.
If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:
She must've wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.
Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.
Victim blaming and I don't think you know how logic works.
I did not victim blame. I wish logic and/or discrete mathematics is a requirement education in the world. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
You did.
Being a social creature doesn't mean you get veto power over how others live their lives. Your justification thus falls flat as does your victim blaming argument.
When you were little, did you parents teach you to look both ways before crossing the street? Even when you're at a stop sign or at a green light? Probably, since you're still alive. Why did they do that? You'd be in the right. If a car hit you, you'd be the victim, 100%. But you do that anyway because being right or being the victim is completely irrelevant. It's not about who gets the blame. It's about what gives you the best outcome. You looking both ways before crossing the street has the best outcome for you. It doesn't matter if you're right if you're fucking dead.
If she wanted the best outcome of staying as a teacher, she shouldn't have done OF. This should be a very easy deductive logic people should be able to make given what is the current society.
This is not victim blaming. I lean quite far left, and this is one of the most insanely annoying thing I find about the left. Far too many only look about who's the victim and whose to blame. That shit is fucking stupidest outlook on life. It's a good goal to attain, a world without problem causing things. But unless utopia happens, you need to learn to figure out how the world works. Failure to do that simply means you're stupid. You might be a victim, but you're still stupid.
Your analogy is false. This is victim blaming and a gross violation of privacy. On your off time you are free to do what you want your employer is not paying you for that time.
You sound like one of those no-fap types btw.
How is my analogy false? How did I victim blame? What did I blame her of? I said nothing of such. You're going to have to substantiate your claim.
I masterbate and have no issues others materbating. In fact I already said it's fine if she wants to do OF.
Not on me to justify your analogy. You must really hate woman who have sexuality
This comment reeks of trying to control women’s sexuality.
Meanwhile you probably think ‘good job’ when firefighters make a topless calendar and have no qualms if they show up to put out the fires.
You smell of double standard vomit.
I'm not trying to control her sexuality. I, in fact, said it's fine if she wants to do OF. So you have read me wrong. I pointed out people's inability to predict the future.
You have judged me for judging on things I didn't say. You smell of hypocrisy.