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submitted 10 months ago by autismdragon@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

Women wearing slightly more clothes in video games: REAL SHIT?

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

Women wearing slightly more clothes in video games:

Some thoughts.

  1. in reality, that wasn't done to appease feminists as a political force, but as a consumer base. reactionaries always confuse the commodification of leftist ideas with leftist hegemony. They think capitalists trying to make money from non-reactionary consumers is the same as the left controlling society itself.

  2. The kinds of things Sarkeesian criticized were barely changed, and to the extent that they were, the fanbase reacted twice as rabidly. For every triangle of cleavage that was covered up on a character in the official release, horny modders (sometimes secretly developers working with assets they took home from work) made 3 different fully nude models.

  3. the gamers who believe so deeply in capitalism and "voting with your dollar" will openly complain about the "wokification" of games they pirated, and then wonder why the capitalists are catering to the demographics that are still buying it instead.

[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And do they not realize that artists generally have a bit more freedom in their craft than most other businesses?

Why do you think porky didn't give that much of a shit when the Haye's code was repealed despite benefiting from the idea of conformity = good? Because they generally let their artists have leeway.

Hell, where are THEIR art successes? The Haye's Code being abolished was a net positive for art. Charlie Hebdo would destroy Stonetoss and Wyatt Mann combined, Stan Kelly is objectively funnier than the guy he's trying to parody. No really, I want to see from them how a game is properly done, might as well learn from the standing authority themselves.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Furthermore, I remember around the beginning of the gamergate stuff, a common refrain from chuds was that if SJWs want games with more normal portrayals of women, SJWs should make their own games

Well we're currently in kind of a golden era of indie games. There have never been as many independent creators than now, and that seems to have simultaneously led to a slight increase in diversity among video game devs at big studios. Since more people are making games now.

It's a simple numbers thing too since games are far more complex now. Atari 2600 games were frequently made by a single programmer. The first Doom game had a dev team of something like 8 people. Red Dead Redemption 2 had a team of 1,600. At a certain point there will simply be more women, more gay people, more than just cis white dude bros working on your game if the complexity requires more people. And that's invariably going to lead to more diverse perspectives represented in the final product. Chuds want to ignore that and want cis white heteronormativity to be so powerful it overrides the very people designing the games.

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