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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (15 children)

That's not a political cartoon.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I think that OP's sentiment is more against gatekeeping what a meme is. Like if this is a meme, than political cartoons are too

[–] kleenbhole@lemy.lol 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Defining words properly isn't gatekeeping, it's categorization.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, defining words narrowly is pretty much the definition of gatekeeping. I hope you're not gatekeeping what gatekeeping means?

[–] dabster291@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You aren't a real gatekeeper if you haven't gatekept gatekeeping before

[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, no true gatekeeper.

[–] kleenbhole@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defining things properly isn't gatekeeping. You said narrow. I didn't.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But who decides what the proper definition is? Your proper definition is for me a narrow if it doesn't take into account the common usage. The definition of meme is widening. Cope with it.

[–] kleenbhole@lemy.lol -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm perfectly happy to give orthographic dominion to Webster. They can be our Academie Francaise. They can control the definition drift. And the pedants can use their educational privilege to suppress the poors. As it should be.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

As it has always been. As God himself intended it as we see in the story of the tower of babel

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Not only is it a great origin, that's a fantastic article on it

Thank you so much for sharing

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally all the things here including comments are memes.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Correct

So basically what I'm saying is that there's a lot of people gatekeeping what a meme is without understanding what a meme is

Or if they're referring to the first of the definitions in the screenshot I shared, not understanding that different people can find things humorous

The biggest meme of all is our spoken languages

[–] kleenbhole@lemy.lol -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't say they weren't. I just reject the notion that proper definitions aren't gatekeeping. I'm not joining the above argument. I understand the definition is based on usage and the usage has changed. Most humans are morons and don't know how to use words properly so they let language change over time.

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