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Saying dark souls/elden ring is not easy enought is like saying schindlers list isnt funny enought. You are missing the point of the whole thing.
Besides. There are always ways to make something easier in from games. A spell, a item, some armor. And that is by design.
Best example is the taurus deamon in dsk1. You find an item before the boss room. Use the item and the thing is done in two seconds. Of course it is also posdible to brute force it with dodge skills.
I think the one thing people dont get about from games ist that they are as much detective games as they are action rpgs.
I feel like you've missed the point of the post. Not everyone likes that style of game or has time to put in being savaged by an overly difficult game. If the devs don't want those people playing, that's fine, but those people are still allowed to hate the games over it.
"no, you're supposed to hate playing it. That's what makes it fun" some people like to get choked, but if your try that shit on someone that hates it, expect a bad time...
Some people like getting choked, but if you don't then maybe you shouldn't do things where you might get choked. Maybe don't go into Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and be like "bro, WTF you choked me out" when you get choked. Nobody is forcing you to play Fromsoft games. You want to play them and you know they're hard. You're putting yourself in that metaphorical chokehold and then complain when you get choked.
If that sounded stupid, then that's because it is. Don't be a child and expect the world to cater to your needs. Not everything is for you and if you don't enjoy it then maybe you shouldn't play. I don't like Battle royales so I don't play them. I don't start up Warzone and then complain how I don't enjoy it, because I understand when I'm not the demographic and I don't expect the game to cater to my needs.
The problem is that, using this analogy, when someone who hates getting choked says they don't want to try Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, a bunch of bjj fans come around telling them how awesome it is... And when the person says "that's cool, but I just don't like getting choked" they get told that's the point of bjj, it's awesome to get choked out...
Again, it's fine if the devs want to make the game not have those options, but they also have to understand there are people that will not buy them or play them because of it. Fans of those games also need to understand that there will be people that hate those games only because of that reason. No amount of telling them "but that's what makes it great though" is going to change their opinion.
Everytime someone says "I stay away from souls-like games because I just don't like to play a game that is so difficult", there will be someone replying either telling them off or trying to convince them they are wrong. We literally aren't buying the game then complaining about it, we are explaining why we won't buy those games.
You do realize that your "problem" is entirely irrelevant in the context of this thread? The comment first mentioning Souls games literally says they've bought the game and they want it to be easier. That is not an explanation why they wouldn't buy the game, it's a complaint that the game they've bought doesn't cater to their needs. The problem you've described doesn't exist here so there's no problem with the analogy either.
The comment is the shittiest bad faith reply I've seen in a minute. Your caricaturized version of what the previous person said is not a good way to drive your point home.
Not all games are made for everyone. I'm not out here buying games that are relaxing/requiring little thought and complaining that they don't require enough planning/patience/skill, I just play those games when I want something relaxing.
No one here is saying that you're not allowed to like a game, what you can't do is buy a game like this, that is notoriously advertised in this way (one of them has a godamn global death counter in it,)then complain that it is exactly what you knew it would be and expect people to sympathise.
You're strawman is worse than my "faith".
Disagree.