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It's a terror organization, what did you expect? Common sense?
I would expected at least one person, somewhere down the line, who read international news once in a blue moon. Guess my standards were too high.
I expect they saw themselves as resistance fighters and saw their attack as resisting.
The problem is that they picked really bad targets that made it easy to portray them as a terrorist group intentionally. Hell, a lot of the protests against Israel is that the attack shouldn't give Israel the freedom to do a genocide, not that Hamas is innocent.
The discussion would be wildly different if Hamas was based in the West Bank and had kidnapped/killed Jewish settlers in the West Bank.
The conversation would be entirely different if they had attacked military targets and not civilians. A
Military base or political building and then suddenly they’re resistance fighters with a lot more backing.
But they attacked civilians at a festival and kidnaps multinational civilians who have no impact on the regions politics. That turned just about everyone against them.
I’ve yet to hear anyone defend hamas. I’ve heard people defending Palestine, which is where I am. But it’s more defending the innocents that aren’t involved than Hamas. I’ve heard people be anti Israel, but many of them don’t support Hamas either. And those who are ok with killing civilians because of their government are already pretty lost. I’ve also seen anti US since we’re involved and while I wish we just weren’t involved at all, or at least trying to negotiate a ceasefire, most of those people are just “USA bad, disagree without thinking” types. Overall though there has really been no defense of Hamas at all
I don't think it even needed to be military targets; it just happens to be that the Gaza Strip is far away from settlers taking land in the West Bank.
It just happens to be that Hamas thought that Israel would negotiate for their hostages while Israel has been more interested in capitalizing on this attack as justification for military response.
“Far away”.
It’s about 30 miles, 50 km. Or about ten minutes to a teenager on a booty call.
I’m not sure how many check points they’d have to go through or how much security there is on those 30 miles….but physically, it’s not that far.
They're a terror organisation in the West. They're a national liberation movement in the rest of the world.
Edit: they are literally called the Islamic resistance movement.
Yes. They murdered children, burning babies and slitting their throats. What heroes.
Idiot.
Reminds me of all those babies thrown out of incubators by Iraqi forces. (in case anyone wonders about that it turned out to be false) Whether or not you agree with their actions the comment you are replying to is correct, Hamas is only designated a terror group by the minority of nations, although since it includes the US and the EU they have a lot of sway with their designation.
Good job repeating Israeli propaganda about burned babies.