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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Israel's military suggested on Tuesday that the United Nations ask Hamas for fuel supplies after the U.N. agency providing aid to Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip warned it would have to halt operations on Wednesday night if no fuel was delivered.

The agency, known as UNRWA, posted its warning on social media on Tuesday. The Israel Defense Forces reposted it and said that Hamas militants have more than 500,000 litres of fuel in tanks inside besieged Gaza.

"Ask Hamas if you can have some," the IDF wrote.

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[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your position is that Palestinians in the northern Gaza Strip are not being told to leave their homes or risk being bombed to kingdom come?

Also how much land did Palestinians hold in 1968 vs today? Just wondering.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If your house catches on fire and the fire department tells you to evacuate, you are not being expelled. Gazans can come back north after the military operation. They aren't even being forced to leave at all - it's just a really bad idea to stick around where there will be city fighting.

Words have actual meanings.

Palestinians held zero land in 1968 because they never had any land in the first place. Also you mean 1967, or maybe 1966, if you mean while the area recognized as Palestine when it was currently Egypt and Jordan, respectively.

[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago

Nice use of the passive voice there. “If your house catches on fire”… and if the “firemen” in your analogy are lighting the fire, doesn’t your analogy break down a bit?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If your house is being bulldozed because terrorists snuck into your basement, and the military tells you to leave because they're going to bomb it, you are not being displaced and you are not being permanently removed from the area.

The bombing of Berlin in WW2 wasn't genocide and neither is this. Yep, people had to leave. And yet Berlin is currently a thriving metropolis.

Since parsing written language isn't really your thing, let me know if you need a more on-the-nose analogy to show how fucking dumb this argument you fell for actually is.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -3 points 11 months ago

Gazans can come back north after the military operation.

Historically when things like this happened they weren't allowed to come back. Israel has done this before (though not to this scale).

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