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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 383 points 1 year ago

The country claiming to have the most “freedom” of any country has the highest incarceration rate of any country.

[-] coolcrowe@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The Star-spangled Banner (where the phrase “Land of the Free” comes from) was written in 1814, 51 years before slavery was abolished. The idea that America is or ever was the land of the free is a total joke.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The third verse of "The Star-Spangled Banner" is not typically sung today. It refers to "the hireling and slave" among the foes of the Republic. "The hireling" refers to the mercenaries employed by the British crown in fighting the American revolutionaries. It is unclear whether "slave" is intended to derogate all British subjects as "slaves" of the crown, or if it specifically refers to enslaved Africans who were offered their freedom by the British if they fought against the revolution.

[-] KerPop47@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That's what Lincoln said! America's enemies point to slavery and use it to call the ideals of liberty lies.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The founders didn’t build the free society. They built the society capable of altering itself, and that grew into the free society.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Other countries have also altered themselves to become free societies.

Sorry, but freedom wasn't invented by slave masters.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Good for them.

[-] KerPop47@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

And the fight continues. The founders were so far down, because basic freedoms for everyone is 0, and we have to fight to get up to that point. The founders negotiated a freeer society, like you said able to modify itself, and the general arc of soiety seems to be the expansion of freedom for the average person.

One day, we may even be able to eat without justifying our food through labor!

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