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Gaza authorities say 700 Palestinians killed in overnight strikes as Israel intensifies bombing campaign (www.reuters.com)

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GAZA/JERUSALEM, Oct 24 (Reuters) - More than 700 Palestinians were killed in overnight Israeli air strikes, Gaza's health ministry said on Tuesday, the highest 24-hour death toll since Israel began a bombing campaign to crush Hamas militants who stunned the country with a deadly Oct. 7 attack.

Israel said it had killed dozens of Hamas fighters in the overnight strikes on the besieged enclave but said its war to destroy the Islamist group would take time.

As aid agencies warned that a humanitarian catastrophe was unfolding in Gaza, French President Emmanuel Macron flew to Israel to offer it support.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How many people, from a credible source that you trust, have died in this conflict? How do you gauge deaths in the Gaza strip?

Do the downvotes mean that there have been no deaths in the Gaza strip?

[+] anteaters@feddit.de -7 points 1 year ago

Didn't downvote you but here's my opinion: many people in Gaza have died. The number is high - any number is too high, regarding innocent civilians. But these headlines are created by a terrorist organization with the sole purpose of riling people up and pushing Hamas' agenda against Israel. Aljazeera mindlessly regurgitating these numbers under the guise of "Gaza officials" is an idiotic farce.

How do we gauge the real numbers then? Ideally by 3rd parties providing numbers or verifying the claims but that takes time - if at all possible.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right. I believe the UNRW doesn't release any numbers other than direct UNRW casualties which they've had 17, because that would be political.

The Palestinian Red crescent society published statistics, looks like they're part of the Red Cross internationally,are they sufficiently neutral? Probably not.

They claim 2,000 deaths they've directly dealt with, and 5,000 total deaths including sources other than their own organization.

It's important to always contextualize data, the thing that I think angers a lot of people, is there's a certain internet respondent that down plays data. I think it's undeniable people are dying, the magnitude is important, the exact number less so.

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[+] anteaters@feddit.de -6 points 1 year ago

It’s important to always contextualize data, the thing that I think angers a lot of people, is there’s a certain internet respondent that down plays data. I think it’s undeniable people are dying, the magnitude is important, the exact number less so.

I have not yet encountered people who downplay the amount of deaths but many who love to eat up the overblown numbers reported by Hamas and resort to violence in other countries.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[-] anteaters@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago

Not believing random numbers Hamas puts out != downplaying deaths, but I'm hope you had at least fun gluing pictures together 👍

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago

Unless you have the actual number at hand to dispute their number, i have no reason to believe otherwise and i have no reason to believe you aren't downplaying the number because occam razor.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago

i have no reason to believe otherwise

That "destroyed hospital with 700 dead babies" might have been a reason. Hamas pulled a number out of their hats immediately after it happened without even having time to count anything. Then the number got lower and lower. Now we have arrived at a burned parking lot with about 100 to 300 deaths. So we can easily half all numbers that Hamas puts out to get anywhere close to the truth.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure which one is worst, you admit that you're downplaying the number of deaths, or the purpose of your comment is only about Hamas number, not the death Israel caused, whether it's half of Hamas number or not.

Yikes.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago

lol the guy who sees no reason to not believe overblown "death counts" by people who gouge other peoples eyes out for fun "yikes" at others. Get a grip on reality. These deaths are targeted at Hamas and them hiding behind civilians and children is what's causing the deaths.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

now they're justifying civilian casualty. Double yikes

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