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A former GOP donor, who once made headlines after calling former president Barack Obama the N-word, fatally shot himself after attempting to kill his wife, according to reports.

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

On the other hand looting goes hand-in-hand with protests and riots. You always have opportunists finding unsupervised shops. Besides, during those situations they are probably right that nobody cares about the supermarket chain's losses when human lives lose a significant part of their value.

So yes, anybody would equate gun ownership with increased risk of homicide/suicide and protests with looting. The false equivalency here is looting is exclusive to Antifa.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're missing the point. The vast majority of Antifa members and demonstrators do not go out of their way to damage public or private property and generally do not act in a manner that will harm bystanders and locals.

The far right talking points, however, would try to make people believe that Antifa is just an anarchist organization seeking to undermine and overthrow all law enforcement agencies and entities to allow them to loot and pillage to their hearts content without any concern for bystanders. The truth couldn't be further as there has been numerous examples of Antifa members identify people there to instigate violence and quite often doing what they can to aid law enforcement present to apprehend and arrest them before the situation becomes violent.

The same can largely be said about gun owners. The vast majority have never used a firearm to commit a crime, nor intend to. And spend any amount of time at a firing range or other organizations for gun owners, and you find a group so conscious about safe use of firearms that to even accidentally point an unloaded and known safe firearm at any other living person for any reason other than self defense can often result in that person being immediately disarmed and lectured.

Where as posts in this comment thread seem to assume owning a gun means you want to shoot and kill someone for no other reason than you owned a gun, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And spend any amount of time at a firing range or other organizations for gun owners, and you find a group so conscious about safe use of firearms that to even accidentally point an unloaded and known safe firearm at any other living person for any reason other than self defense can often result in that person being immediately disarmed and lectured.

So in other words, gun safety is entirely optional and the worse you'll face is some embarrassment if someone calls you on it.

Even in this person's fantasy, they'll still hand the gun straight back to the person.

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