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[-] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago
The people in charge of both sides are evil.
Picking sides in this fight is like
    picking sides in fucking Game of Thrones.
[-] manos79@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

it seems you can't be bothered with any thing more than 2 lines of stereotypical rhetoric.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Talk about not bothering.

Etuomaala is correct. Both sides pick shitty leadership. Both sides are constantly fucking with the other side in a deadly game. However, one side is grossly overpowered relative to the other and is constantly stealing land while committing apartheid.

Yeah, they’re both assholes. Just one’s a shitload stronger and never ever stops fucking with the little guy.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The median age of Palestine is 18. More than half of the people living in Palestine didn't vote for Hamas, and it isn't like this jihadist group will allow fair elections as they consolidate power. And even then, Israel isn't allowing an avenue of diplomatic relations when they control essentials like water, keep taking land from them, killing journalists and diplomatic leaders, and bombing schools and hospitals (Israel has a well documented history of bombing Palestinian schools and hospitals).

The only way diplomacy will work is if Israel gives major concessions and they never will. Israel is creating the situation where extremists will rise and come into power. We saw this many times with America and Al Quaeda, Isis, taliban.

Let me ask the questions: Is Palestine its own state? If so, then Israel shouldn't have control to all of these resources like power and water. If so, then they should actually autonomous. If so, why does Israel keep taking land, killing them?

Is Palestine part of the state of Israel? Then why do they do this to their own people? Because they "elected" Hamas? Then why does Israel put them in a condition to allow extremists to form? Imagine you are given a choice to die of starvation, dehydration, a bullet or rocket. That radicalizes people and gives them the ignition to take on arms.

And keep in mind I am not condoning Hamas. They are a jihadist terrorist group who are also harming the Palestian people. If they cared about Palestine, they would not have done the Oct 7th attack because they'd know Israel would retaliate 100 fold. Hamas are pieces of shit. Israel is creating the conditions that don't allow diplomatic way forward, and allow the rise of extremist groups.

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